Jake Humphrey

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Yeah, so you used the phrase there, Jay, the moral compass.

I think that's really what this episode is about, about how do you keep your moral compass pointing to a true north in a world that will constantly try and take you off course?

And I was lucky enough to speak to James Witts.

He's a brilliant journalist that's written a book that comes out called Dope.

And it's about the culture that surrounds elite sport where young athletes often get tempted to look for shortcuts, look for hacks, look for a quick route to the top that gets them onto that podium.

But it also involves injecting or...

imbibing different substances that are illegal.

And I wanted to talk around how can you keep your moral compass true?

Yeah, so, again, this is the thing that, like, how do you be a patient man in an impatient world?

How do you be a clean athlete in a world where you know other athletes are doping?

That's not a free decision to make.

I mean, it was a conversation we had with Usain Bolt, if you remember when we sat down with him.

We asked him about...