Jamel Bouie

Who voted, who if they're old enough, may have voted for Bob Dole.

People who would have voted for Republicans are like, I don't like all this chaos.

You could call them anti-chaos voters.

I don't like chaos.

All I want to do is like make my money, raise my family, not have to think about this shit.

Those people have started voting for Democrats.

You have everywhere in the country these voters who just like don't.

It's exhausting to have to pay attention to this stuff all the time.

It's exhausting for us.

And this is our job.

You know, the New York Times pays us money to do this.

We're all tired of it.

Right.

So if you're not being paid money to do it, I can imagine that it's very frustrating to experience.

And I just don't I don't see the Republican Party having any real strategy for for dealing with that.

I mean, I'm very much of the view that people should tailor messages to their particular states and communities and circumstances.

But one thing that does seem to resonate, in part because it kind of reflects the two sides of where Trump has become very unpopular, is... And I saw Ruben Gallego on CNN or something a couple days ago say something to the effect of, they took $75 billion from Medicaid to give to ICE, right?

So I think that actually is the message, right?

It's both...

People are angry about the healthcare cuts.