James Cameron

But then the layer on top of that is the sensory layer, which is color, composition, all of those artistic things.

Because I also started as an artist figuratively, but I could draw, I could paint.

I knew the rules of composition.

I learned all the art history, Renaissance lighting, composition, all that sort of thing.

So there's an aesthetic level to it that I like.

There's the world-building level where every plant –

you know, either looks real and or has a purpose, you know, and we spend an awful lot of time.

Fortunately, you know, we're blessed with good budgets and good time to sort of let these ideas marinate and gestate, right?

And I've got great designers.

It doesn't all flow...

From my consciousness, it comes out very out of focus, if you will.

And it's an act of working with other people to bring it more and more into finite detail.

I call it my role is to create the grand provocation for the other creative people.

And I got that term from my wife, Susie, who's an educator.

And she says that the school provides the provocation.

The kids provide the investigation and the curiosity and the passion.

That's brilliant.

Right?

And I think it's very good.

It's the basis of her school.