James Catledge

I don't quite understand the dynamics of paying premiums for 75 years and hoping that when you're gone, some stranger is going to deliver a check to your family for half a million dollars. The whole thing sounded scammy to me, but I liked this guy, this guy's mentor really is this Mormon Bishop. His name is Chris Zockel. And I say that because a lot of people in this town know Chris.

I don't quite understand the dynamics of paying premiums for 75 years and hoping that when you're gone, some stranger is going to deliver a check to your family for half a million dollars. The whole thing sounded scammy to me, but I liked this guy, this guy's mentor really is this Mormon Bishop. His name is Chris Zockel. And I say that because a lot of people in this town know Chris.

So he, as a Bishop says to me, James, you'd be very good at this. I don't know. I may have to hold my nose and jump in on this, and I don't know. I got a good gig where I'm at. He says, listen, we've got a proficiency test that the CEO of Beneficial Life has designed. Every agent has to take it. Just let me give you the proficiency test.

So he, as a Bishop says to me, James, you'd be very good at this. I don't know. I may have to hold my nose and jump in on this, and I don't know. I got a good gig where I'm at. He says, listen, we've got a proficiency test that the CEO of Beneficial Life has designed. Every agent has to take it. Just let me give you the proficiency test.

So he, as a Bishop says to me, James, you'd be very good at this. I don't know. I may have to hold my nose and jump in on this, and I don't know. I got a good gig where I'm at. He says, listen, we've got a proficiency test that the CEO of Beneficial Life has designed. Every agent has to take it. Just let me give you the proficiency test.

And it will tell us both whether you would be proficient at this. Strangest questions I've ever been asked. I mean, strange questions. So I go through this whole thing. He calls me. He submitted this thing. It takes a couple of weeks to evaluate in Salt Lake City. They send it back. He says, let's get together. I want to go through your proficiency test. He says, listen.

And it will tell us both whether you would be proficient at this. Strangest questions I've ever been asked. I mean, strange questions. So I go through this whole thing. He calls me. He submitted this thing. It takes a couple of weeks to evaluate in Salt Lake City. They send it back. He says, let's get together. I want to go through your proficiency test. He says, listen.

And it will tell us both whether you would be proficient at this. Strangest questions I've ever been asked. I mean, strange questions. So I go through this whole thing. He calls me. He submitted this thing. It takes a couple of weeks to evaluate in Salt Lake City. They send it back. He says, let's get together. I want to go through your proficiency test. He says, listen.

I've scored 60, 70 guys that have worked through the agency over the years. Never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. Your score's off the charts. It's higher than mine by like 10 points. And he's the boss of the agency. I said, well, what does that mean? Because I do not, at this point, the way you've explained insurance, I don't like it.

I've scored 60, 70 guys that have worked through the agency over the years. Never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. Your score's off the charts. It's higher than mine by like 10 points. And he's the boss of the agency. I said, well, what does that mean? Because I do not, at this point, the way you've explained insurance, I don't like it.

I've scored 60, 70 guys that have worked through the agency over the years. Never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. Your score's off the charts. It's higher than mine by like 10 points. And he's the boss of the agency. I said, well, what does that mean? Because I do not, at this point, the way you've explained insurance, I don't like it.

So what does that mean to have a high proficiency? It means you would make a fortune in this business. Whatever's going on in you is dynamically designed for this. And I just believed him and I was flattered by the comments. And he took me under his wing, taught me estate planning seminars. where he runs an ad in the local newspaper back in the day. If you were over 65, you read the newspaper.

So what does that mean to have a high proficiency? It means you would make a fortune in this business. Whatever's going on in you is dynamically designed for this. And I just believed him and I was flattered by the comments. And he took me under his wing, taught me estate planning seminars. where he runs an ad in the local newspaper back in the day. If you were over 65, you read the newspaper.

So what does that mean to have a high proficiency? It means you would make a fortune in this business. Whatever's going on in you is dynamically designed for this. And I just believed him and I was flattered by the comments. And he took me under his wing, taught me estate planning seminars. where he runs an ad in the local newspaper back in the day. If you were over 65, you read the newspaper.

And his flyers were for living trust.

And his flyers were for living trust.

And his flyers were for living trust.

Yeah, come for a free lunch. And so I was a pretty good public speaker, and he was very good because he's a bishop. He's very eloquent. And so I would sit there and take notes on his –

Yeah, come for a free lunch. And so I was a pretty good public speaker, and he was very good because he's a bishop. He's very eloquent. And so I would sit there and take notes on his –

Yeah, come for a free lunch. And so I was a pretty good public speaker, and he was very good because he's a bishop. He's very eloquent. And so I would sit there and take notes on his –