James Moore

They're far from it.

Abelos doesn't have a seat in parliament, so they're far away from it.

But they can be really aggressive and really destructive and set a really high bar and really try to cleave that progressive vote back.

Pierre Polyev, to Jerry's point, he does have to really do think about this because there's comfort in the base.

You can tell in that press conference, there's comfort in the 87% number.

There's comfort in the people who really like you.

But the people who really like you are not going to get you more than what you've got.

And you need to deliver.

You need to show results.

You need to show quarterly growth.

In the business, where's your EBITDA?

Show me your numbers.

How is it moving up?

And so he's going to have a pressure because if Mark Carney has a majority and he can do whatever he wants, well, then the job of the opposition leader is to be that much more aggressive and to do all that.

But being more aggressive puts you further in your box.

And so how does this help and what do you do?

So they need to find their footing in the new dynamic because they do have an obligation to be a stern opposition.

But does that negate your capacity to build those bridges?

It's, you know, it's the beginning of a new chapter of the Carney era for sure.

Yeah, I mean, it's hard to disagree with any of that or rearticulate that in a different way because I think all of that is true.