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James Thompson

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Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

And they argued that their grandfather, Lang, wanted to give them stakes in Hancock prospecting.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

And Gina Reinhart basically prevented that from happening.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So you got these three battles all intertwined and intermeshed.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

And as you said, after two and a half years of deliberation by Justice Jennifer Smith in those WrestleMania battles, because there were winners and losers here.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So in terms of who controls Hancock prospecting, who owns this big chunk of the Pilbara, there's no doubt about it.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

Gina Reinhart emerges as the winner there.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

The Wright family were unsuccessful in getting an equity stake in Hancock prospecting's minds.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

And Gina Reinhart's kids were unsuccessful in proving up their claim that Lang Hancock actually wanted to give them a stake.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So Gina walks away from this battle as the big controller of these businesses.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

But she did suffer two losses.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So Justice Smith did say that the Wright family and the Rhodes family are entitled to some royalties from some of Hancock prospecting's mines.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So this does mean that Hancock Prospecting will have to make some payments to these two families, and they're not insubstantial.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

They will be shared with Rio Tinto, which is Hancock Prospecting's partner in the Pilbara, but I think it's really important to emphasise that these payments are retrospective as well.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So not only will Hancock Prospecting have to make royalty payments in the future, they're also going to have to go back and account for past payments as well.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

Just quickly, what's a royalty, James, and how do they even fit in?

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So royalty is a share of the profits that are generated by a mine.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

Royalties can be streamed to lots of different parties.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

So the big one in Australia is governments.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

Governments take a royalty out of the tons that are mined of lots of different commodities, including iron ore.

Chanticleer
Refinery fire means more pain, Westpac’s vital Iran warning & Gina Rinehart claims victory

You might pay a royalty to the various joint venture partners in a business.