James Vowles

I think they still have a place in the next rule set in 2031.

I think we got the balances slightly out of whack, corrected as we go through this journey.

It's a good question.

So the one with McLaren is if you look at their average position across five years, it's actually always been part of the top four.

They just had a few years where they fell back to it, which is important to note.

And if you do the same work with Williams, unfortunately, we were further behind than that.

So it's a bigger trajectory.

We often call it the biggest transformation of sport.

That's the reason why I call it.

From where we were, this is the biggest transformation.

However, already to move the team significantly from pretty much the back to the top of the midfield should show everyone that the change is real and tangible.

To break into the top four in my experience, top three, is exponentially harder than what we've just done.

But the real investments that we're doing behind the scenes haven't all kicked in yet and won't kick in for a while.

So we'll announce it over the forthcoming months.

But some really great people have joined the fray.

So part of it is people.

Part of it is systematic investment.

We've been investing tens of millions every year in new facilities and new ways of working that are not up and running yet.

But it will change what you're doing.

The next is I want us to be defined by technology.