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James Vyver

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125 total appearances

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The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

Is it like the movies where you type someone's name in or does it sort of work on it in the background and just flag things up?

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

Well, yeah, the thing about it is that how the 2008 cigarette heist, failed cigarette heist,

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

influenced the construction and design of the subsequent undercover operation.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

Ultimately, we don't know because we weren't in the room and those details didn't come out in court, but it would be interesting to know how they designed the second undercover operation with the information drawn from the first.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

Because when you think about it, there are a few similarities to do with driving trucks and his sort of life experience and how

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

Perhaps some of the tasks might have been incorporated into this fake crime syndicate and what they're asking him to do.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

You remember he picked up UCO Danny from the airport.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

Well, not in a truck, we presume in a car, but still driving.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

So there's some sort of similarities there.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

But the thing they must have had to have been really sure on and perhaps why the undercover operation ran smoothly.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

for the best part of 2023, is, you know, his hackles may have been up.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

He may have been thinking, oh, is this another undercover operation?

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

You know, they must have had to have their backstories and their scenarios and every tiny little brushstroke of this undercover operation really

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

designed and planned out ahead of time so that he didn't smell a rat, as it were, and disappear off into the ether and the whole thing would fall over.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

Given that, they would have known he'd been stung by an undercover operation before.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

So it's interesting to wonder and to pose how they would have considered the UCO 1.0 in UCO 2.0 and UCO Danny and the syndicate and all of those things, how one influenced the design of the other.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

The particulars of the crime are pretty different, obviously, but the consideration about the victims or lack thereof

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

to me is similar.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

You are willing to assault and cause harm to someone else for the betterment of yourself.

The Case Of
16 The Two Intruders | A second sting and a cancer diagnosis

So that's what we saw when it came to the 1999 burglary.