James Vyver
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Is it like the movies where you type someone's name in or does it sort of work on it in the background and just flag things up?
Well, yeah, the thing about it is that how the 2008 cigarette heist, failed cigarette heist,
influenced the construction and design of the subsequent undercover operation.
Ultimately, we don't know because we weren't in the room and those details didn't come out in court, but it would be interesting to know how they designed the second undercover operation with the information drawn from the first.
Because when you think about it, there are a few similarities to do with driving trucks and his sort of life experience and how
Perhaps some of the tasks might have been incorporated into this fake crime syndicate and what they're asking him to do.
You remember he picked up UCO Danny from the airport.
Well, not in a truck, we presume in a car, but still driving.
So there's some sort of similarities there.
But the thing they must have had to have been really sure on and perhaps why the undercover operation ran smoothly.
for the best part of 2023, is, you know, his hackles may have been up.
He may have been thinking, oh, is this another undercover operation?
You know, they must have had to have their backstories and their scenarios and every tiny little brushstroke of this undercover operation really
designed and planned out ahead of time so that he didn't smell a rat, as it were, and disappear off into the ether and the whole thing would fall over.
Given that, they would have known he'd been stung by an undercover operation before.
So it's interesting to wonder and to pose how they would have considered the UCO 1.0 in UCO 2.0 and UCO Danny and the syndicate and all of those things, how one influenced the design of the other.
The particulars of the crime are pretty different, obviously, but the consideration about the victims or lack thereof
to me is similar.
You are willing to assault and cause harm to someone else for the betterment of yourself.
So that's what we saw when it came to the 1999 burglary.