Jamie Laing

Really appreciate it.

Today's episode is with a great friend of mine, Fern Cotton.

And weirdly, Fern and I and a couple of our friends, we go for dinners like every other month to chat about life and everything.

So having this podcast here is like one of our dinners.

We chat about parenting, the fact that I've become a new dad, that is kind of really interesting for me.

We also talk about how Fern is stopping being a people pleaser.

And we also talk about how she experienced panic attacks and anxiety and how she's overcome that.

today's episode goes all over the place and I can't wait for you to listen to it now before we start again if I can ask you just one thing which is subscribe to our show I know I keep asking you every single week but it does us wonders and it means we can keep making the show better and better for you each week so join the community and click subscribe if you can okay here we go enjoy this amazing episode of Great Company with Fern Cotton having kids is exhausting

That's how I'm going to go straight in there with that.

You've got teenagers.

It doesn't end.

It doesn't end.

It never ends.

I used to look at people who had kids and I used to think, poor you.

Yeah.

It can't be that hard.

Yeah, like what do you do all day?

Yeah, like come on.

And then when you have kids, there is like this, your brain opens up in a weird kind of way and the whole idea of life changes.

Everything.