Jamie Rubin

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3,234 appearances 20 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 5d ago

Jamie Rubin’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files · Q&A: Is Poland Putin's Next Target & Netanyahu Defies Trump · 13 Aug 2026 podcast

France, all of these countries have stepped up to the plate, recognizing that the Ukraine war was a wake up call for them. voice-verified

Um and you know, it doesn't matter to me who gets the credit, whether it's Trump or Biden or all the different Americans who've called on NATO countries to spend more money. voice-verified

The fact is they're spending more money, they're trying to rebuild their military capabilities to have a an effective European based deterrent, which is what we've always wanted. voice-verified

Um, that's a good thing, and that I think is a deterrent. voice-verified

And the other factor, of course, is that Russia can't beat you. voice-verified

Ukraine. voice-verified

So why would it take on NATO? voice-verified

And I think that's yes, Ukraine has been uh resilient. voice-verified

Yes, Ukraine has been inventive in using drones and all of its um, you know, uh careful use of new technology, but let's face it, it's still Ukraine as compared to NATO. voice-verified

And so I think the qu the fact that Russia has had such a difficult time and is bogged down in Ukraine shows voice-verified

shows you that uh sometimes we should realize that uh Russia is not ten feet tall and that despite its size and the number of its weapons um and its leadership, that it has its own problems that it can't deal with, and it one of those right now is Ukraine. voice-verified

You're right. voice-verified

The idea of a European army was not something the United States liked, because our idea was if you're going to spend more money and buy more weaponry, let's make it part of NATO. voice-verified

And we don't need to separate ourselves and let's keep us together, improving NATO. voice-verified

And there were debates and discussions about the extent to which building a separate European army would be redundant and a waste of money and undermine the the solidarity of NATO. voice-verified

Right. voice-verified

But in the end, what we wanted was for them to take defense more seriously and to be willing to spend more money and more effort and have their countrymen participate in the military more regularly and make it a higher priority. voice-verified

That was the real goal, and that goal I think has been achieved. voice-verified

But you're right, there were always these debates about how that money would be spent and whether voice-verified

United States wanted to decouple Europe from the United States by having a so called European army. voice-verified

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