Jamie Rubin
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3,234 appearances
20 recordings
1 series
first heard Jun 2026
last heard 5d ago
Jamie Rubin’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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I'm not gonna try to parse all of that, but I think it's important to bring up a few points.
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Number one, I had always suspected that Hamas agreed to this plan precisely because they knew that uh the Israelis would reject it.
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Um it was always a bit on the vague side of how this disarmament would work.
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Would they be decommissioned?
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Would they be put beyond use?
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How long would it take?
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All of those things.
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Uh but it was a step forward, and I think the
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Hamas calculation was that the Israelis will take the hit because they will say no to this.
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And I had said at the time, I think when this first came up, we talked about this, and I guessed that they they were uh willing to say yes to it, knowing that they could block it later, um, because they thought the Israelis would say no, and then the Israelis would take the blame.
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We've been working on this same idea since I left the government in uh twenty twenty-four, and namely that is to get the Israelis to withdraw from Gaza.
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So you put in an international force to protect its borders and prevent Hamas from restoring its capabilities that attacked Israel on October 7th.
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And then you slowly but surely bring governance and uh disarmament and demobilization to the region of Gaza with peacekeepers and a Palestinian force.
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That was the concept.
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It was very difficult, it was very hard, and if it had been achieved, I think it would.
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have yet yielded normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia.
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That's why we worked so hard on it.
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That's why people like Lindsey Graham, who recently passed away, thought it was so important.
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That's why Tony Blair and Tony
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Uh and
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