Jan Böhmermann
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2,587 appearances
16 recordings
1 series
first heard Aug 2024
last heard Mar 2025
Jan Böhmermann’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Ah, exactly.
From here the horses take over. Imagine that. And that was a real job. That was an industry. That's kind of like... The motorway racing industry today, from Kleve you knew, now you're in the hands of German, I don't know how to say it, German treidlers. Those were such big horses, they ran along trampolines next to the Rhine.
It was also very different at the time and then they had these fat ships, which were of course not as heavily loaded as the stone ships from the Eifel or the wood from the Schwarzwald, but they were rather light ships, but the empty ships had to get back up the Rhine. And they then pulled the ships over hundreds, almost 1,000 kilometers, the Rhine with horses.
And that every day, hundreds of ships.
Exactly.
Peter, for example, would have had all hands full at that time. I think so too. I thought at first, how do they do it on bridges? If the ships have to go under a bridge, they have to be bound. But of course there were no Rhine bridges at the time. The Rhine was only to cross with a pontoon bridge or somehow with ferries. And that means they could just pull the Rhine down.
But in zones, for example, the horses were changed. And then they could rest. Then you see the Rhine again ridden up or down in the direction of Kleve. And then there were so many seasons, you know?
We both have no idea.
It's not just like that, it's not been ten years and then the car or the engine was invented, but it ran for thousands, probably tens of thousands of years, ships were trailed. And there were paths next to big rivers where horses ran on them, who had ropes on ships and then pulled them down from Kleve all the way down.
No!
But was the Middle Ages really bad or were there just these stupid copper tricks that we play in our history books?
No, look, these are always pictures, these are stitches that they then have, where the figures always with such crooked hands, so from the side, it always looks like shit. But actually they were full of style and good at it back then, right? If they could have painted properly in the Middle Ages or if it hadn't been forgotten in the meantime, because the Romans also built cool busts, for example.
Oh, we're really coming here. I had the feeling that in the first 15 minutes of our podcast we wouldn't qualify for the moderation of title, thesis, temperament. Probably not. We open ourselves up to culture backwards, autodidactically.
We don't read, but we go to the local museum, see the word treideln, then fall into rabble for three weeks over Christmas and come up with a thing where people say, yeah, of course it was treidelt. Probably get mails from the Treidel Union or from Alice Treidel.
You can't talk about that so nicely now. But still, the people, I think about the old Rome, for example, when you walk through such an old Roman city, you think, okay, they obviously also have the concept. That was already the case with the Romans back then. They were people like us, they just didn't have the technological possibilities. But they were also capable of irony, complex communication.
They are genetically the same people as we are. They also thought about it, they didn't know that much. But I think they were also funny and cool and had jokes and graffitis. Pompeii, for example, I find fascinating. Breakdance. Breakdance, early form of breakdance. There were definitely crazy subcultures back then, they just weren't preserved.
But I can imagine... And maybe they were more with special interest. No, but they were definitely cool too. You can talk to them, let's say you would speak a language, I think you would somehow find a common ground with them. Because they were normal people. It will be difficult, I think, for the homo sapiens... Your naivety moves me to train, Jan.
Oh, many people still do that in the Catholic Church. Some, 50% of the people who are in the Catholic Church believe in God.
On the other hand, we also believe that it is a good idea to operate unregulated social networks, where you can just write what you want and think that has no effect on our society, on politics, on our coexistence, on peace, on our health. That I have a screen time of 9 hours is somehow not normal either, right? No. Do you have a screen time of 9 hours online? 100%, of course. Per day?
Yeah, what else? You don't watch 9 hours a day. No, I think there's always an app open that always runs with it. I think the new, well, browser that I don't close or something. But I'm already suspicious of a lot of... Look, the big five things that people say in a thousand years, back then, the dark year 2025, people were so stupid, they will say that 100% about us in 500 years.
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