Jan Jekielek

So here we are, here's the setup, right?

And what they do is they're able to push this massive course of power through the population.

They're able to push propaganda.

So now suddenly these people which were

in many cases, model citizens on one side of the declaration that it's basically a public enemy, that these people are public enemies.

Now, on the other side, you're supposed to believe that they do terrible things.

Why?

They use the same talking points actually from the 30s that the Germans used against the Jews to demonize them, to dehumanize them.

And this is an important piece of the puzzle because you have to kind of get, in order to do atrocity, okay, you have to kind of trick people's minds.

The people that aren't psychopathic, which is most people, have to kind of be tricked into seeing people as less than themselves and being able to treat these peoples as lesser than them somehow.

A hundred percent.

And this is also a consequence.

And I talk about this a lot in my book, a consequence of our engagement with China for the last four decades.

We thought that our own propaganda was that we were going to change them, that they're going to liberalize.

If we pump enough cash in there, they're going to become a South Korea or Taiwan.

The reality of what happened is they changed us and they made us more like us, more like them, pardon me, through...

Very, very effective propaganda.

And by the way, every one of these communist societies, whether it's Cuba or Soviet Union or communist China, they're all the best thing they're always at is the propaganda, right?

Because even now they're trying to convince everybody that America is horrible because of the realities revealed in the Epstein files.

And by the way, there are horrible things in there, okay?