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China’s Murder-for-Profit System: Crooked Docs Run 25-Year Organ Harvesting Network Serving Elites w/ Jan Jekielek & Luke Rudkowski – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 589

22 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

2.815 - 24.498 Dr. Drew Pinsky

Well, great news is we're already kicked off TikTok just with the topic we're presenting. Luke Rutkowski is here. He's the founder of We Are Change, nonpartisan, independent media organization focused on worldwide events, journalist, entrepreneur, daily news commentary, and personal about, promotes, of course, personal responsibility, health, and self-defense training. You can find him.

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24.539 - 48.685 Dr. Drew Pinsky

He runs LukeUnfiltered.com. Also on X, Luke, We Are Change. And then Jan Jekielek. He'll be here in a few minutes. He's the senior editor with the Epoch Times, host of American Thought Leaders, author of Hill to Order. We're going to talk about China and organ harvesting. We'll talk about that a little bit with Luke as well. There's much to get into here. Don't go away. Be right back.

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50.69 - 65.813 Dr. Drew Pinsky

Our laws, as it pertains to substances, are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***'s sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that?

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Chapter 2: How has the Chinese Communist Party used organ harvesting?

66.434 - 83.7 Dr. Drew Pinsky

I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.

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94.244 - 111.443 Dr. Drew Pinsky

Yeah, I think we learned a little bit about how the algorithm works over at TikTok. Say something concerning about the Chinese Communist Party and the government behavior, you get kicked off immediately. So I don't know who's running TikTok, but I'm just saying we did a little test and guess what? Already? Already. Already off.

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111.423 - 112.664 Unknown

That took two seconds.

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112.684 - 119.711 Dr. Drew Pinsky

Took two seconds. On X, Luke We Are Change, Instagram at Luke We Are Change. We Are Change on Rumble. We Are Change on YouTube.

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Chapter 3: What evidence supports the claims of organ harvesting in China?

119.731 - 136.148 Dr. Drew Pinsky

WeAreChange.shop. You can find Luke's materials there. Luke can talk on a variety of topics. Personal responsibility is top of his list. All of my guests are Polish today in celebration of our return from Poland. Luke, welcome to the program.

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136.938 - 156.924 Luke Rudkowski

Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Drew. Really appreciate it. Our time on TikTok was also very short. I remember a couple months ago, we started to upload videos there. And I did four original videos. They got four views. And then the whole channel just got taken down immediately. And I was like, this is kind of strange here. It's under new ownership.

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158.085 - 169.179 Luke Rudkowski

But yeah, the censorship is pretty thick still in today's day and age. I think it's going to come back even worse here. But thank you so much for having me on. There's so many things to talk about. There's so many different things to get into.

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Chapter 4: Who are the primary victims of China's organ harvesting system?

169.319 - 182.976 Luke Rudkowski

I've been spending my time just going off, deep diving into these files. And man, are we living in an ever so crazy wild world where we're finally getting a picture of the reality of it. And it's not good.

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184.795 - 210.068 Dr. Drew Pinsky

What files are you talking about, Luke? I'm confused. Is something happening with some files out there? I'm so overwhelmed by the Epstein files. I can't even, I don't know where to start. So I guess the first thing I would be interested in is how do we, or maybe we can't, determine what is, you know, sort of conjecture, what is incidental, what is really evidence of bad behavior.

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210.128 - 211.63 Dr. Drew Pinsky

How do we sort all that out?

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212.639 - 236.509 Luke Rudkowski

Well, what the federal government did here is they just threw a bunch of documents out there without really explaining it. Even the research type of name document that they released is kind of all over the place. There's people like Thomas Massey in there. Not the Rothschilds that are mentioned a lot in the emails, and they're not in the official list of names in the glossary.

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236.549 - 255.404 Luke Rudkowski

So this has been a cover up of obfuscation that's happening here. They kind of throw everything. We have some anonymous reports that are, of course, not taken seriously. It should be up to the government to help us make sense of what we're seeing here. But we're getting a bunch of crazy accusations. We're getting a lot of weird emails.

Chapter 5: How does the organ harvesting system operate in China?

255.764 - 274.191 Luke Rudkowski

People are left connecting the dots. And a lot of people usually like to think of their own theories and speculate here. But I don't even want to do that. It's clear that the government has a lot of explaining to do. And I think that's where a lot of the public pressure should be. There's a lot of smoke. We don't know where the fire is exactly.

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274.211 - 296.427 Luke Rudkowski

And there's still even files that are missing from specific data sets right before 9-11, during 9-11, and after 9-11, highlighting a possibility that Epstein could have been involved in 9-11. And of course, who knows? He was involved in Iran-Contra. I think that's where he met Bill Clinton when he was the governor of Armenia, Arkansas, when they were doing all the drug and gun trafficking.

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296.407 - 309.125 Luke Rudkowski

that they were doing with the CIA. And then we have Epstein talking about how he was working with the Rockefellers. And then Bill Clinton going over to that Bilderberg meeting right before he became president of the United States.

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309.466 - 328.769 Luke Rudkowski

And a lot of people believe the Bilderberg group is essentially the kind of secret society that sets up a lot of these people to be prime ministers, to be presidents, to be representatives of this kind of global shadow government that we're getting a little bit of a sneak peek at, but we're still having to sift through a bunch of weird stuff. We don't know how to make sense of it.

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329.23 - 332.173 Luke Rudkowski

All we know is that this is weird and something's off here.

332.874 - 334.716 Dr. Drew Pinsky

It's weird. Yeah, it's weird.

Chapter 6: What role does propaganda play in the Chinese regime's actions?

334.836 - 356.397 Dr. Drew Pinsky

And the behavior of elites is disgusting. And the fact that there are people that believe that they know how we should be governed above the elected officials is disgusting. Telling other people how to live their lives is disgusting. forget their disgusting behavior, which they put tons of evidence of exploitation of women and young women and just beyond.

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356.677 - 378.557 Dr. Drew Pinsky

But everything about this is so disgusting. However, did you see today one of the California Legion, Ted Lieu, I think his name is, one of our congressmen, who stood up and said, oh, there's stuff missing. What's missing is Trump raping children. And I thought to myself, oh, lawsuit incoming. Trump should sue the crap out of him if that's not true.

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378.537 - 384.025 Dr. Drew Pinsky

But that's how far people's speculation is going with what's left.

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384.899 - 398.196 Luke Rudkowski

Exactly. Well, that's also because there's anyone that could make an anonymous tip to the FBI, and they're including every anonymous tip that they got. I'm like, why are you doing this? Because this muddies the water.

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398.576 - 419.263 Luke Rudkowski

You know, we had Dan Bongino and Kash Patel coming out and kind of describing a situation where they're saying that we want to protect people, so not everyone is implicated when they're innocent. You're doing that by releasing all of these anonymous, unverified reports Some of them were investigated. Some of them weren't. We don't know which ones were. We don't know which ones weren't.

Chapter 7: How does the international community respond to these allegations?

419.663 - 436.064 Luke Rudkowski

And we're kind of left here kind of scratching our heads here. And they're like, yeah, we did a great job. We did so awesome. And I'm like, no, you did not. We clearly know that there's a lot of weird stuff. It's clear that there's also insider trading, a lot of big financial moves here. But Epstein was a brilliant cover-up artist.

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436.245 - 456.55 Luke Rudkowski

I mean, we're talking about an individual who in the emails that he was talking to people saying, This is not a secure form of communications. We know he used video games to communicate with people secretly. That was at a time one way to communicate without government surveillance. Now, of course, it's surveilled. He used encrypted messaging. He used self deleting messages.

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456.91 - 474.88 Luke Rudkowski

The real files are within the CIA. The real files are with the financial transactions. We haven't gotten those. And Epstein had over a billion dollars moving around all the time. Where did he get that billions of dollars? The federal government still has all those financial transactions.

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Chapter 8: What can individuals do to raise awareness about organ harvesting?

475.602 - 490.401 Luke Rudkowski

Why aren't we seeing where the money's going, where it's coming from, who's it going to? And I think this is really a huge cover-up effort that really puts and his administration in a very difficult place because they clearly violated the law here.

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490.782 - 511.067 Luke Rudkowski

And they're giving the Democrats not only a layup with PR victories, but as soon as the Democrats come into political power, there's going to be justification and use to arrest Democrats Donald Trump and his DOJ, which puts them in an extremely difficult situation. And I'm kind of scratching my head here. Why are they doing this?

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511.127 - 532.284 Luke Rudkowski

This makes no sense at all, as it's pretty clear there needs to be more investigations. There needs to be some legitimate actions. Ten countries are investigating Epstein and individuals connected to Epstein. Ten. The United States is saying, we're done. We released all the documents. I think the American people want to move forward. The American people do not want to move forward.

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532.624 - 548.809 Luke Rudkowski

They understand our systems are hijacked. They want accountability. They want justice. I want justice. I want to make sure that the predators that are still out there, probably still hurting a bunch of children, are held accountable for it. And they're not. And that's the real kind of egregious part of all this personally.

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549.363 - 571.708 Dr. Drew Pinsky

Yeah, the dark, the world of the banking is sort of, Mel Cade gave me a long disquisition on that yesterday. And this has been going on for a long time. And I think that's what people are fearful. I don't know what their fear is of exposing what that actually is, but there's some real serious interest there that they don't want exposed. Let me switch gears a little bit here.

571.823 - 588.415 Dr. Drew Pinsky

We opened with TikTok kicking us off with anything negative about China. Did you see Macron out there touting his notion that free speech is bullshit? And I thought, oh, yeah, we see you now, dude. Emmanuel, we got you. We see who you are, you asshole.

588.395 - 600.99 Dr. Drew Pinsky

I've always thought they're talking him, you know, when you go listen to French radio and television, the moderate center is calling him a monarch. He considers himself the new monarch.

601.391 - 619.274 Dr. Drew Pinsky

Then you have Mélenchon on the other side, who's a Trotsky-esque communist who announced that he was in control of the government after the midterm election, the last set of elections, which showed no clear majority. I mean, they're just a mess. But the fact that free speech is bullshit is, They've got to be very careful about that.

619.655 - 628.476 Dr. Drew Pinsky

And by the way, I heard Jordan Bardella talking about it this morning. He'd do that. They need to get him in the prime minister, at least the prime minister office.

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