Jane Araf
speaker
1,797 appearances
216 recordings
2 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard 6d ago
Jane Araf’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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They said it could be, quote, determined to potentially express viewpoints regarding specific identity groups.
Yeah. She's still teaching. She's gotten a lot of support from the community. And that sign is still up.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's the fundamental question, right? You know, I went back to Tina Deskovich from Moms for Liberty, right? which is the group that endorsed this portal and is anti-DEI in schools. And I asked her, what about the people who feel silenced by things like the NDEI portal?
And she told me, you know, they should fight for their right, legally fight for their right that they have to free speech, just like we fought for our First Amendment right.
I talked to this pastor in Florida, and everybody knows him as Maynard. He's retired. He's another person who didn't want me to use his full name because he said he didn't want to endanger his family or members of the churches he preaches at. He's somebody who kind of fills in now since he's retired, still gives a sermon here or there when pastors are on vacation.
And he said now when he goes and gives sermons— If a person doesn't like what he said, how he's interpreted the Bible, the message he's giving that day, they'll walk up to him and say, I'm going to put you on a list.
And then another day, he was preaching a sermon around the idea that, you know, you love your neighbor as you love yourself, and you even love your enemy, which is a very, very difficult thing to do. And that was his sermon that day.
Yeah. I mean, he was very, it was very illuminating. He'd never had this experience in his life. But in this climate, that happens to him. We also talk to lawyers, including the lawyers that are representing people in many of these immigration cases who worry about sanctions for the fact that they are taking up cases against the government at a time
law firms are making deals with the Trump administration so they won't deal with any retribution or ramifications for cases they took up that Trump saw as against him. I mean, Ayesha, also it's the media, the press. The job that we do every day is to serve our listeners and ask the hard questions of those in power and reflect the nation as it is.
And so we've seen moves that seem threatening to the press. NPR is The New York Times, Politico, and others were kicked out of their Pentagon offices and replaced. And then for the first time, the president is picking— the pool of reporters that cover his activities rather than the press picking them.
So that could lead to him being like, oh, I'm going to pick these four people because they cover me in the way that I like, which would go against a free press. And you know, President Trump has made it pretty clear that he will go after the media or perceived political enemies if he feels that they're treating him unfairly.
He spoke on the floor of the Justice Department saying that he thinks what CNN and MSNBC are doing is illegal or should be illegal. And he's saying that inside the Justice Department. And so there are big questions about the media as well and our role in this moment.
Yeah. I mean, I think it's really important not to minimize what happens when somebody gets quote-unquote canceled over speech the larger public has decided is unacceptable, right? I mean, people are barred from certain social media accounts maybe. They maybe lose their job, maybe lose friends, are completely sidelined.
But what I'm hearing from a lot of people now who feel the chilling is not that the pushback is coming from the public. This is coming from the government. It isn't that they're getting canceled. It's that they're being told, if you use these words, if you have this viewpoint, if you use this speech, you're not going to get federal funding. You're going to face retribution.
You know, what we heard a lot of was self-censorship. Like before you even figure out what the consequences are, just try to get in line. So, oh, it looks like this executive order is saying all of this type of language will probably be unacceptable. Let me take climate change out of my report. Let me take any mention of woman, of non-binary, equity, inclusion, diversity, you know, things that
they feel they need to have in their research in order to continue it. You know, we spoke to one researcher who said, you know, if I can't look at the inequities, I can't do the work. But maybe that's the point. Maybe that's the point. And there was one woman who wouldn't even let us tape her.
You know, at first she was like, well, maybe you can distort my voice, and then she didn't want even that. And she said, I'm sitting here trying to get this FEMA grant, and I'm going through with a thesaurus – trying to look for a different way to say ecologist, trying to look for a different way to say – to talk about tribes because they work with native tribes.
And then she was like, I don't want to go on tape because I'm a dual citizen. And so I'm worried that if I say something and I'm coming back from Canada – she's a dual U.S. and Canadian citizen – There could be some problem because of what I'm seeing happening with visa revocations. Of course, she's a citizen, but she's still worried.
And so I think it's a lot of sort of getting in line before there are consequences.
But then we found some people who were like, nope. I'm going to stand up. The more I thought about it, the more outraged I became. We spoke to this woman, Karen Ortiz. She's an administrative judge at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. So, you know, she would be who you would go to if you had a problem at work. Maybe you faced discrimination and you wanted it redressed.
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