Jasmine Sun

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #248 – Jasmine Sun on what the people building AI really believe · 21 Jul 2026 podcast

It's already a very competitive job market.

It's sort of, if I don't use OpenClaw, I'm going to fall off and somebody else who is using OpenClaw is going to take my spot.

And so a lot of the attitudes around AI are just much more practical.

There's no choice economically and politically except to get on board with AI.

And so people are more open to it and I think more open to adopting AI and focus more on the economic value it provides.

But I would say that a lot of this does have to do with sort of almost this resignation that there is no choice.

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say that there's like no dissent or no backlash at all.

Like you mentioned, I think like delivery drivers have engaged in some forms of organizing.

There were actually protests around robo-taxis that were introduced in Wuhan.

So Baidu has a robo-taxi outfit.

They started rolling them out and there are like some like protest light type things.

I will still say that these are very marginal compared to the level of like public dissent and protest in the US.

There are many, many, many fewer Chinese people

Thank you so much.

He heard in his conversations with the Chinese policy community that the robo-taxi protests were part of what inspired Chinese policymakers to be more active on the labor legislation front in particular.

And so the other thing that I'll say is that the Chinese government, while overall still being a promoter of AI and a promoter of technology very broadly—

they are more willing to introduce lots of little pieces of iterative legislation around the potential societal harms of AI.

So there's a recent court case in Beijing that ruled that firing wouldn't count as sort of just cause, basically, to fire a worker because of AI.

Or China has also legislated companion chatbots quite aggressively.

They obviously have a lot of speech regulations.

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