Jasmine Sun
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first heard Jul 2026
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In a way, I think that there are people, influential and prominent people in the AI community who, whether for intellectual reasons or for, like, intellectual reasons as in, like, a belief that, like, the more intelligent species is more deserving or simply because it's a more interesting thought experiment, have sort of arrived at an indifference towards whether humans stay in control.
And I find that quite worrying.
the AI labs or something like that.
But I do think that it makes it very hard to have, to move forward like policy action, to move forward the safety conversation if we're not able to agree on even very foundational concepts such as humans should say in control of our governments.
And it is possible to decide what technologies we build and don't build.
And our conversations should center what happens to people.
And so I find that a little bit troubling.
I think it's fair.
And I think that, you know, when I try to report, I try to have an eye for some of the hyperbole.
Like in the permanent underclass piece, like I try to make pretty clear that in a lot of ways it is an edgy joke.
And most people do not literally believe in a permanent underclass, even if they believe in mass job displacement and increasing inequality.
which I also think is somewhat concerning and worth talking about, even if it's expressed in more extreme ways.
But in general, I like paying attention to these cultural quirks and these memes because I think they are a release valve for things that you can't say or things that feel almost sometimes taboo or inappropriate.
I would not have written that permanent underclass piece if I have not had lots and lots of conversations with young workers in Silicon Valley and
who have decided to try to get a job at an AI lab rather than doing a variety of other things, specifically because they were specifically worried about being trapped in a permanent underclass.
And maybe you could say, oh, they were actually just worried about being poor or having less money when AGI comes and returns to labor stop working.
But
It's true that these memes, silly as they may sound, are shaping people's individual behavior.
I mean, I've been thinking a lot specifically about this question of where people choose to work and brain drain in particular.
Because, for example, one of my close friends is a PhD student who studied NCS in AI at Berkeley.
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