Jay Reeve

So when it comes to the book, you've got a sort of just do it system, which is, I mean, and you can read it from the book or you can basically pick parts out of it or you'll probably know it intrinsically.

But for me, a person whose mind and people that have listened to this podcast for a large amount of time, Dunk knows it more than anyone.

It's fucking a Mad Hatter's tea party up there.

It's shits going everywhere.

Yeah.

And so...

I generally on your path, which I think has about 10 steps on it.

Seven.

Seven steps on it.

I get to like step two and then there's nothing off the back of it.

We're buying a castle dunk.

I fucking found 10 of them.

You pick the one that you want.

Well, what are we going to do with the castle?

And we go, I don't know.

It doesn't matter.

We own a castle.

So if, say for example, if once again you were up against a bean counter in that situation, because a lot of people were when that happened, it's how can we save and reduce the numbers that's going out the door as opposed to increase the numbers that's coming in?

It's such a great saying, though, as well.

so congrats too oh thank you that's it i was quite pleased there's not that many people that get themselves into a fight for life you know like that is that is a fight for your life yeah and and it's and it takes more than a let's go so i think that anybody that has managed to sort of knock the rust as a champion and probably you know you don't celebrate it enough but also like you said the without that this probably would have never been the outcome because