Jean Chatzky
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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If you look at the types of jobs that college grads hold and the types of jobs that you need to have a college degree in order to get, they tend to be the higher paying jobs. We are seeing some movement in trades, in apprenticeships, in vocational programs. I grew up in Wheeling, West Virginia, in a high school that had a big welding department in the basement.
And I believe that we need to see more of these opportunities. But there's no question that a college degree helps you land a better salary. And when you look at the lifetime earnings of a person with a college degree versus one who doesn't have one, It's hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not more.
And the way that that then drives change in society is that you have these families where you tend to have not just one, but two college educated people because college educated people often meet in college. And those two income college-educated households are going to be making significantly more money in many cases than those who are not college-educated.
And what we wind up with is just a bigger income disparity in this country than we have right now. And as you know, Hala, it's already problematic. So we look at it and we see these things starting to march in that direction.
The other problem though, and I hear of this from my daughter and from people younger than her, is that if you are on a college campus and you're heterosexual and you want to date, it's gotten an awful lot harder.
So it's education and it is the transfer of wealth. Those are the two big factors that are playing into this. But when you talk about the fact that women are going to have the money, what people don't do is sort of follow the breadcrumbs and think about how that's going to change everything. right?
When you follow the breadcrumbs, what you see is that the fact that women are making these purchasing decisions changes things. If you look at cars, it's going to change the way that cars are designed because they're going to be designed with women buyers more in mind. You'll have a better place to park that bag that you carry around on your shoulder all the time.
The seat will be adjustable in a different way so that you'll be able to see over the front of the hood if you're height challenged in the way that I am. It'll change the design of homes. Single women buy many more homes than single men. They've become a very important segment of homebuyers. And we are seeing homes designed with the things that women want in mind.
So it's not just a matter of the fact that financial advisors are a little bit up in arms about this because They have seen studies that show that when the male spouse in a family dies, 70-ish percent of women are likely to leave the advisor and find somebody of their own choosing. Those trends are underway as well, but it's going to change the look and feel and design of a lot of products.
Yeah, it's definitely not. And maybe if they start to see that more women are buying their own business class seats, that'll be something that will change. Or the folks who make the away bag that we all seem to carry will come up with some sort of a hoister to help us get it up in that luggage compartment because I have the same trouble that you do. Yeah.
Look, there's a lot of research on when a woman is the primary breadwinner and whether or not it causes strife in relationships. Generally, if when a man and a woman form their relationship, the woman is already the higher earner, then that status quo doesn't rock the boat too much.
It's when there's a shift in the dynamic over the course of the relationship that impacts the balance of power in the relationship in other ways that things go a little bit sideways. And that's where we start to see breakdown in communication. That's where we start to see women compensating for the fact that they make more money. I mean, I'm sure that you have seen this research, Khaled.
It's so troubling. When women make more money, we don't see that they offload more of the responsibilities at home. We see that they take on more of the responsibilities at home. And the logic behind that is that we feel somehow bad about that and that we have to make nice to our spouse's ego. So of course, we're going to make dinner and do the grocery shopping and take care of the kids.
And that's where burnout comes from. And that's where anger comes from. And in some cases, that's where divorce comes from.
And I agree with that. First of all, I think, and no disrespect to Marshall, but when he says you have to marry down, I think that that's the wrong word. I think that you have to marry and date different people. Yeah, you need a partner who is going to be really supportive of your efforts and your career. Because let's just be honest about this. And I felt the same way when I first had kids.
My former father-in-law said, well, when are you stopping working? Because all of his other daughters and daughters-in-law had stopped working. And I said, yeah, not me. I'm not doing that. We will figure out how these kids will have care during the day. And the way that we did it was that my ex-husband didn't travel for work and I did. And that balanced us out for a very, very long time.
If you are in a relationship where the egos are clashing or where your partner can't support your success or doesn't want to support your success, then it's not going to work. It's just going to fail. Have you ever seen the movie Beautiful Girls? No. Okay, you have to watch the movie Beautiful Girls. It's old, 20 years probably.
Natalie Portman and Annabeth Gish and Timothy Hutton and Matt Dillon, a whole bunch of people. But the part of that movie that sticks with me is there's a very successful woman in it. She's dating Timothy Hutton and he is a piano player in a bar. who also happens to be an accountant.
And he's been putting a whole lot of pressure on himself to get a real accounting job so that he can keep up with her. And finally, she just said, musicians are sexy. Accountants are not sexy. Musicians are sexy. giving him the permission to continue to do this thing that he enjoyed and continue to bring that sexy energy to their relationship, which is what she needed from him.
And so that's the balance I think that you're looking for. There's a lot of lean in Sheryl Sandberg's book that people have dismissed over the past number of years. I think the thing that really holds up from that book is the importance that she put on selecting your partner.
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