Jeff Grant

And, um,

And at the end of August, this article comes out in The New Yorker.

And I'm telling you, you could divide my professional life up into before The New Yorker magazine and after The New Yorker magazine.

Because as soon as that hit, it was like skyrockets.

It was like everybody wanted to join the support group.

Other people wanted to interview me.

We were hearing from documentary companies in Hollywood.

I can't even tell you what was going on.

It was like...

And we didn't know what to do.

All of a sudden, we were like, we went from a relatively small support group to we were tripling in the amount of people who were signing up every week.

And we went through some growing pains, but we're still doing the support group.

And this coming Monday night is, I think, our 426th meeting, weekly meeting.

So we've been doing it for eight and a half years.

And we have a white collar conference that we're hosting this fall where we have brilliant people who are going to come together.

We're doing it all online.

And that whole thing is rolling out.

The law firm is like rolling out and like, like all of a sudden I'm like living my best life.

You know, I'm like living the life that you can't even dream of when you're in, when you're locked up.

It's like, it's like, you gotta be kidding.