Jeff Guinn
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Yes. And instead, here's screaming in agony. So that threw them off. Plus, Koresh had been hit during the firefight. And it looked like he might be dying. And so they were going to want whatever last words the lamb had to say. And finally, after two and a half hours, there was a sullen agreement on both sides to a ceasefire.
The Branch Davidians were sure that ATF was just going to come back probably that night. ATF thought they'd regroup and be sent back maybe in the morning. Neither one was right. It was just the beginning where both sides had thought maybe it was the end.
The Branch Davidians were sure that ATF was just going to come back probably that night. ATF thought they'd regroup and be sent back maybe in the morning. Neither one was right. It was just the beginning where both sides had thought maybe it was the end.
The Branch Davidians were sure that ATF was just going to come back probably that night. ATF thought they'd regroup and be sent back maybe in the morning. Neither one was right. It was just the beginning where both sides had thought maybe it was the end.
The FBI was called in the same night that ATF was driven away. And for the FBI, there was a certain amount of resentment. They were being called in to clean up somebody else's mess. Now there had been a similar sort of thing in Idaho called Ruby Ridge in October 1992.
The FBI was called in the same night that ATF was driven away. And for the FBI, there was a certain amount of resentment. They were being called in to clean up somebody else's mess. Now there had been a similar sort of thing in Idaho called Ruby Ridge in October 1992.
The FBI was called in the same night that ATF was driven away. And for the FBI, there was a certain amount of resentment. They were being called in to clean up somebody else's mess. Now there had been a similar sort of thing in Idaho called Ruby Ridge in October 1992.
Wenn ATF und die FBI eine weiße Militärin und seine Familie in ihrem Kabinett verabschiedeten, und es gab einen Schuss, und der Mannsweib wurde getötet, und es wurde wirklich dreckig, schlechte Publizität. Nun, in der Meinung der FBI, hat ATF dieses Ding von einem Ende nach dem anderen gespürt. Und sie wurden angerufen, und wenn es nicht gut endete, würden sie verurteilt werden.
Wenn ATF und die FBI eine weiße Militärin und seine Familie in ihrem Kabinett verabschiedeten, und es gab einen Schuss, und der Mannsweib wurde getötet, und es wurde wirklich dreckig, schlechte Publizität. Nun, in der Meinung der FBI, hat ATF dieses Ding von einem Ende nach dem anderen gespürt. Und sie wurden angerufen, und wenn es nicht gut endete, würden sie verurteilt werden.
Wenn ATF und die FBI eine weiße Militärin und seine Familie in ihrem Kabinett verabschiedeten, und es gab einen Schuss, und der Mannsweib wurde getötet, und es wurde wirklich dreckig, schlechte Publizität. Nun, in der Meinung der FBI, hat ATF dieses Ding von einem Ende nach dem anderen gespürt. Und sie wurden angerufen, und wenn es nicht gut endete, würden sie verurteilt werden.
Und unter dieser großen Menge von Agenten gab es zwei separate Gruppen. You have the negotiators. Let's just take whatever time we need. We're going to talk back and forth. We're going to get this worked out. And you have the tactical teams. Look, we got everybody. We've got tanks. We can go in there in 10 minutes. You know, we can control the whole thing.
Und unter dieser großen Menge von Agenten gab es zwei separate Gruppen. You have the negotiators. Let's just take whatever time we need. We're going to talk back and forth. We're going to get this worked out. And you have the tactical teams. Look, we got everybody. We've got tanks. We can go in there in 10 minutes. You know, we can control the whole thing.
Und unter dieser großen Menge von Agenten gab es zwei separate Gruppen. You have the negotiators. Let's just take whatever time we need. We're going to talk back and forth. We're going to get this worked out. And you have the tactical teams. Look, we got everybody. We've got tanks. We can go in there in 10 minutes. You know, we can control the whole thing.
And during the siege, there was great tension between these two groups. It particularly grew just a few days into the siege when Koresh suddenly announced If he were allowed to make a tape that would be broadcast on national radio about the seven seals and what the Davidians believed, that once that was played, he and all his followers would come out and surrender. The FBI let him do that.
And during the siege, there was great tension between these two groups. It particularly grew just a few days into the siege when Koresh suddenly announced If he were allowed to make a tape that would be broadcast on national radio about the seven seals and what the Davidians believed, that once that was played, he and all his followers would come out and surrender. The FBI let him do that.
And during the siege, there was great tension between these two groups. It particularly grew just a few days into the siege when Koresh suddenly announced If he were allowed to make a tape that would be broadcast on national radio about the seven seals and what the Davidians believed, that once that was played, he and all his followers would come out and surrender. The FBI let him do that.
And the tape he sent out was just a garbled mess. And clearly anybody objective who was listening would have said, who is this guy? He's nuts. Forget about the whole thing. But the FBI didn't care. They didn't care what he believed. They called it Bible Babble. What they did was they simply prepared, okay, we did our half, now the guy's going to come out. They didn't know two things.
And the tape he sent out was just a garbled mess. And clearly anybody objective who was listening would have said, who is this guy? He's nuts. Forget about the whole thing. But the FBI didn't care. They didn't care what he believed. They called it Bible Babble. What they did was they simply prepared, okay, we did our half, now the guy's going to come out. They didn't know two things.
And the tape he sent out was just a garbled mess. And clearly anybody objective who was listening would have said, who is this guy? He's nuts. Forget about the whole thing. But the FBI didn't care. They didn't care what he believed. They called it Bible Babble. What they did was they simply prepared, okay, we did our half, now the guy's going to come out. They didn't know two things.
The first thing they didn't know, and I confirmed this with Branch Davidian survivors, the Branch Davidians were going to come out concealing AR-15s and grenades in their clothing. Men, women and children. And when they got out, they were going to have one last glorious blast off for God.