Jeff Guinn
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We'll take them by surprise. They have no plan B, for if they've lost the element of surprise. And so, on the fateful morning, the two Cattle trailers come chugging up. Out the agents are going to burst. And as they do, the shooting starts. Now you have 76 government agents not armed with powerful, fully automatic guns at all. And they are facing without cover. Think about that.
We'll take them by surprise. They have no plan B, for if they've lost the element of surprise. And so, on the fateful morning, the two Cattle trailers come chugging up. Out the agents are going to burst. And as they do, the shooting starts. Now you have 76 government agents not armed with powerful, fully automatic guns at all. And they are facing without cover. Think about that.
We'll take them by surprise. They have no plan B, for if they've lost the element of surprise. And so, on the fateful morning, the two Cattle trailers come chugging up. Out the agents are going to burst. And as they do, the shooting starts. Now you have 76 government agents not armed with powerful, fully automatic guns at all. And they are facing without cover. Think about that.
About 80 branch Davidians leaning out of the windows that just dot Mount Carmel all over. Oh mein Gott. Oh mein Gott. It was a bloodbath and ATF agents who fought in it and survived told me they were Vietnam veterans and they had been in massacres in Vietnam and they had never seen a bloodbath like it. Yikes. It was horrible.
About 80 branch Davidians leaning out of the windows that just dot Mount Carmel all over. Oh mein Gott. Oh mein Gott. It was a bloodbath and ATF agents who fought in it and survived told me they were Vietnam veterans and they had been in massacres in Vietnam and they had never seen a bloodbath like it. Yikes. It was horrible.
About 80 branch Davidians leaning out of the windows that just dot Mount Carmel all over. Oh mein Gott. Oh mein Gott. It was a bloodbath and ATF agents who fought in it and survived told me they were Vietnam veterans and they had been in massacres in Vietnam and they had never seen a bloodbath like it. Yikes. It was horrible.
They can't climb back in the trucks. The trucks are shot to bits. There are three different attempts at ceasefire. There's a phone inside Mount Carmel and a county sheriff's office. They're on the phone with the Davidians during this, trying to arrange some kind of ceasefire. But the thing nobody else understands but the Davidians is this.
They can't climb back in the trucks. The trucks are shot to bits. There are three different attempts at ceasefire. There's a phone inside Mount Carmel and a county sheriff's office. They're on the phone with the Davidians during this, trying to arrange some kind of ceasefire. But the thing nobody else understands but the Davidians is this.
They can't climb back in the trucks. The trucks are shot to bits. There are three different attempts at ceasefire. There's a phone inside Mount Carmel and a county sheriff's office. They're on the phone with the Davidians during this, trying to arrange some kind of ceasefire. But the thing nobody else understands but the Davidians is this.
They believe this is the assault from Revelation as prophesied by David Koresh This is the big one. They've got to fight to the death. Because that's the only way they're getting to come back and have all the rewards. ATF never had any idea of that. Instead, all they know is they're completely outgunned. They got people dead.
They believe this is the assault from Revelation as prophesied by David Koresh This is the big one. They've got to fight to the death. Because that's the only way they're getting to come back and have all the rewards. ATF never had any idea of that. Instead, all they know is they're completely outgunned. They got people dead.
They believe this is the assault from Revelation as prophesied by David Koresh This is the big one. They've got to fight to the death. Because that's the only way they're getting to come back and have all the rewards. ATF never had any idea of that. Instead, all they know is they're completely outgunned. They got people dead.
There is not a way in hell they're going to be able to storm into that building now and take these people. They need to pull out and somehow redeploy, figure out how to go about it differently. For the Branch Davidians, why the hell would you want to do that? We've got this final fight. It's here. On their end, this was the problem. They had at that time five people killed in this assault.
There is not a way in hell they're going to be able to storm into that building now and take these people. They need to pull out and somehow redeploy, figure out how to go about it differently. For the Branch Davidians, why the hell would you want to do that? We've got this final fight. It's here. On their end, this was the problem. They had at that time five people killed in this assault.
There is not a way in hell they're going to be able to storm into that building now and take these people. They need to pull out and somehow redeploy, figure out how to go about it differently. For the Branch Davidians, why the hell would you want to do that? We've got this final fight. It's here. On their end, this was the problem. They had at that time five people killed in this assault.
There would be a sixth who would die trying to get into the building a couple of hours later. And a couple of them were dying horrible, lingering deaths, screaming to be put out of their misery. And they finally were. The Branch Davidians had thought that somehow, when this time came, it was going to be relatively painless. God was just going to lift their souls up.
There would be a sixth who would die trying to get into the building a couple of hours later. And a couple of them were dying horrible, lingering deaths, screaming to be put out of their misery. And they finally were. The Branch Davidians had thought that somehow, when this time came, it was going to be relatively painless. God was just going to lift their souls up.
There would be a sixth who would die trying to get into the building a couple of hours later. And a couple of them were dying horrible, lingering deaths, screaming to be put out of their misery. And they finally were. The Branch Davidians had thought that somehow, when this time came, it was going to be relatively painless. God was just going to lift their souls up.
Yes. And instead, here's screaming in agony. So that threw them off. Plus, Koresh had been hit during the firefight. And it looked like he might be dying. And so they were going to want whatever last words the lamb had to say. And finally, after two and a half hours, there was a sullen agreement on both sides to a ceasefire.
Yes. And instead, here's screaming in agony. So that threw them off. Plus, Koresh had been hit during the firefight. And it looked like he might be dying. And so they were going to want whatever last words the lamb had to say. And finally, after two and a half hours, there was a sullen agreement on both sides to a ceasefire.