Jeff Guinn
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Podcast Appearances
Babylon schließt sich ein. Und sie lassen sogar einen dieser Agenten Mount Carmel infiltrieren. Sie wissen genau, wer er ist, aber sie lernen mehr über ATF oder wer auch immer diese Leute sind von der Regierung, von dem, dass dieser Typ kommt. Also er sagt seinen Superioren, naja, sie wissen nicht, wer ich bin. Natürlich wissen sie. Wow.
Babylon schließt sich ein. Und sie lassen sogar einen dieser Agenten Mount Carmel infiltrieren. Sie wissen genau, wer er ist, aber sie lernen mehr über ATF oder wer auch immer diese Leute sind von der Regierung, von dem, dass dieser Typ kommt. Also er sagt seinen Superioren, naja, sie wissen nicht, wer ich bin. Natürlich wissen sie. Wow.
So the idea is, they get information from him what the Branch Davidians day is like. That every morning, the men who don't have day jobs in town are working digging this huge pit. The Branch Davidians say that it's just a tornado shelter. The government thinks they're making a bunker. You know, they're getting ready to try to hole up in there. So most of the men are out of the main building.
So the idea is, they get information from him what the Branch Davidians day is like. That every morning, the men who don't have day jobs in town are working digging this huge pit. The Branch Davidians say that it's just a tornado shelter. The government thinks they're making a bunker. You know, they're getting ready to try to hole up in there. So most of the men are out of the main building.
So the idea is, they get information from him what the Branch Davidians day is like. That every morning, the men who don't have day jobs in town are working digging this huge pit. The Branch Davidians say that it's just a tornado shelter. The government thinks they're making a bunker. You know, they're getting ready to try to hole up in there. So most of the men are out of the main building.
They're told by informants, former Branch Davidians, that all the guns... and there's an arsenal, everybody agrees, are kept in one locked room and only David Koresh can give permission to get in there. That's why dynamic entry seems like a good idea. The men go out working the pit, ATF comes charging in, the women and children in the big house are safe. Nobody gets hurt. That's their plan.
They're told by informants, former Branch Davidians, that all the guns... and there's an arsenal, everybody agrees, are kept in one locked room and only David Koresh can give permission to get in there. That's why dynamic entry seems like a good idea. The men go out working the pit, ATF comes charging in, the women and children in the big house are safe. Nobody gets hurt. That's their plan.
They're told by informants, former Branch Davidians, that all the guns... and there's an arsenal, everybody agrees, are kept in one locked room and only David Koresh can give permission to get in there. That's why dynamic entry seems like a good idea. The men go out working the pit, ATF comes charging in, the women and children in the big house are safe. Nobody gets hurt. That's their plan.
The problem is, of course, that the element of surprise gets lost and that's where everything really goes to hell.
The problem is, of course, that the element of surprise gets lost and that's where everything really goes to hell.
The problem is, of course, that the element of surprise gets lost and that's where everything really goes to hell.
ugly little section of the world. And trust me, it's ugly. I was there a lot. It's on top of a low sloping hill. There are no trees or anything. There's no cover. For about a hundred yards from the main road, and the main road is about this wide, there's a circular driveway. ATFs decided they're going to surprise these rubes by having their 76 agents make the approach in two cattle trailers.
ugly little section of the world. And trust me, it's ugly. I was there a lot. It's on top of a low sloping hill. There are no trees or anything. There's no cover. For about a hundred yards from the main road, and the main road is about this wide, there's a circular driveway. ATFs decided they're going to surprise these rubes by having their 76 agents make the approach in two cattle trailers.
ugly little section of the world. And trust me, it's ugly. I was there a lot. It's on top of a low sloping hill. There are no trees or anything. There's no cover. For about a hundred yards from the main road, and the main road is about this wide, there's a circular driveway. ATFs decided they're going to surprise these rubes by having their 76 agents make the approach in two cattle trailers.
In this backcountry area of Texas, there's cattle trailers all the time. The Branch Davidians, who clearly can't be too smart if they're following a psycho like David Koresh, will see two cattle trailers coming up the driveway and think, you know, some dumb guys just took a wrong turn.
In this backcountry area of Texas, there's cattle trailers all the time. The Branch Davidians, who clearly can't be too smart if they're following a psycho like David Koresh, will see two cattle trailers coming up the driveway and think, you know, some dumb guys just took a wrong turn.
In this backcountry area of Texas, there's cattle trailers all the time. The Branch Davidians, who clearly can't be too smart if they're following a psycho like David Koresh, will see two cattle trailers coming up the driveway and think, you know, some dumb guys just took a wrong turn.
The problem for ATF, of course, is if the Branch Davidians happen to be waiting for them on the high ground, already armed, with fully automatic AR-15-style rifles. There's no cover for their agents. The agents could literally be blown away as they try to get out of the cattle cars. And ATF is so confident that these people are too stupid. They're never going to guess what's going to happen.
The problem for ATF, of course, is if the Branch Davidians happen to be waiting for them on the high ground, already armed, with fully automatic AR-15-style rifles. There's no cover for their agents. The agents could literally be blown away as they try to get out of the cattle cars. And ATF is so confident that these people are too stupid. They're never going to guess what's going to happen.
The problem for ATF, of course, is if the Branch Davidians happen to be waiting for them on the high ground, already armed, with fully automatic AR-15-style rifles. There's no cover for their agents. The agents could literally be blown away as they try to get out of the cattle cars. And ATF is so confident that these people are too stupid. They're never going to guess what's going to happen.