Jeff Hathorne

Later, Carter.

That's one of my favorite dudes.

It's nice to have the thought that all these guys get along, that they go to each other's houses, that their wives or girlfriends are all friends and they have this.

And when they get back together, especially after a Super Bowl win, that man, they're all staying in touch.

They golf together.

That's not the reality.

There are jerks on every championship team.

And Ben was a horrible teammate.

He was a bad teammate.

He was a jerk to everybody, like to staffers, to media, to you name it.

Early or for his whole career?

Yeah.

And he did get better.

Not immediately, but he did get better.

I just think, I know why people are fascinated by this, because people want to know what these things are like or what people are like.

But the biggest thing of what Joey said was when I was on the field, I wanted him as my teammate.

That's all you need to know.

And listen, Cam can say whatever he wants.

The reason he sat back, he has sponsors of a podcast and he wants clicks because they could have edited that out.

It seemed like at that point he had pushed it off to Diana Rossini to be like, she's the one writing this right now.