Jeff Hathorne

I didn't ask that.

Why was she on it?

It came down to some Tomlin talk, and I think Joey's sore at Ben and Harrison for not

Well, not just Tom.

I think he feels like those two have betrayed the Steelers organization.

Far worse.

Listen, to say I could get into Joey's head and figure out what's going on and what the true reason and why he picked that, I don't know.

Joey's done that in other circumstances where he's just brought up stuff.

We all know Mason's relationship with, well, we don't know all of it, but we understand that that was not a...

a great partnership.

Sure.

Or there was no mentorship going on in that scenario.

So I understand why Mason just went, yeah.

And not to burst anyone's bubble here, but the 70s Steelers didn't all get along.

and and jerks win in pro sports michael jordan was a jerk his teammates said as much in the last dance i i think joey's point was more why would you say anything bad about the steelers when they had your back when things weren't good with you i think that was i think that's his ultimate but he was but he wasn't do you agree with him he was just critical as a podcaster would be it was like over the top stuff the steelers had their had his back a

No, everybody can say whatever they want.

And it's up to the public to determine.

The stuff with Bradshaw and the Roonies over the years and with Chuck after they both retired, I mean, it was bad.

But listen, again, I go back to I get in today's society especially why people are into this type of stuff.

but it's on every team.