Jeffrey Ladish

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"The Cognitive Revolution" · Reward Hacking by Reasoning Models & Loss of Control Scenarios w/ Jeffrey Ladish of Palisade Research, from FLI Podcast · 2 Apr 2025 podcast

Um which is to say

They can maybe just barely defend against most sort of advanced non state actor groups, but they're pretty far from defending against sort of the the more advanced state actor groups.

So I think they have a long way to go in terms of being able to secure against state actors.

That's that's my that's my overall assessment.

And you know, I'm that's that's my opinion, but you can you can go talk to most people in the field and I I think I think they would mostly agree with me.

Yeah, I can sit on a hard drive for sure.

You can walk out with like a a hard drive of, you know, the whole m you know, O three, all of the weights on a hard drive in your pocket totally.

Yeah, I mean I I do think that

Companies should increase their security.

I think one of the worst case scenarios is not just state actors, but non-state actors.

You know, basically everyone who's a little bit sophisticated can gain access to the most powerful AI systems.

I think that's a pretty dangerous place to be, especially as the systems get more agentic.

I think that longer term, we really need to think about what we're trying to do.

Like what what is the international community trying to do?

Where basically I don't think that security.

Security alone really solves our problem.

In part because if we keep pushing the frontier, we're going to build AI systems that can circumvent our security almost no matter what.

And so I I think that like security is good.

It's a really good protective mechanism.

And also sort of we need really advanced security in order to be able to protect from, you know, only slightly superhuman level AI systems.

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