Jelly Roll

They thought I was just some dumb redneck, which they were right, but they thought I was a dumber redneck than they thought I was. And they would come and they'd be like, hey, you know, listen, I'll never forget one label said, it's a blank check. Like whatever you want it to be within reason, you put the amount of money you want us to give you and then we'll put a number of albums with it.

You know, and I had a guy at the time who was ill-advised of me. He was like, let's just ask for like 10 or 20 million bucks, dude. This will change both of our lives forever. He was like kind of managing me a little bit. I was like, ah, right then I was like, I think I need to find another manager. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I don't think this is right.

You know, and I had a guy at the time who was ill-advised of me. He was like, let's just ask for like 10 or 20 million bucks, dude. This will change both of our lives forever. He was like kind of managing me a little bit. I was like, ah, right then I was like, I think I need to find another manager. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I don't think this is right.

You know, and I had a guy at the time who was ill-advised of me. He was like, let's just ask for like 10 or 20 million bucks, dude. This will change both of our lives forever. He was like kind of managing me a little bit. I was like, ah, right then I was like, I think I need to find another manager. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I don't think this is right.

I was like, because I'm also in a space where, you know, mama didn't raise no fool. You know what I mean? It's like, I was smart enough to go, I don't, if they think I can make 20 million dollars, And that's what these people do is they count beans and determine if people can make $20 million. I think I can make $20 million. You know what I'm saying?

I was like, because I'm also in a space where, you know, mama didn't raise no fool. You know what I mean? It's like, I was smart enough to go, I don't, if they think I can make 20 million dollars, And that's what these people do is they count beans and determine if people can make $20 million. I think I can make $20 million. You know what I'm saying?

I was like, because I'm also in a space where, you know, mama didn't raise no fool. You know what I mean? It's like, I was smart enough to go, I don't, if they think I can make 20 million dollars, And that's what these people do is they count beans and determine if people can make $20 million. I think I can make $20 million. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, well, yeah, always. Ancillary participation is what they call it to try to get us away from the 360 deal, which is what it is still. They just gave it a cooler name. But it's always in favor of the artist, depending on what your deal was and how much money you took. I know some artists in town that did bad ancillary deals too, though. They did like 50-50 or 70-30 ancillaries.

Yeah, well, yeah, always. Ancillary participation is what they call it to try to get us away from the 360 deal, which is what it is still. They just gave it a cooler name. But it's always in favor of the artist, depending on what your deal was and how much money you took. I know some artists in town that did bad ancillary deals too, though. They did like 50-50 or 70-30 ancillaries.

Yeah, well, yeah, always. Ancillary participation is what they call it to try to get us away from the 360 deal, which is what it is still. They just gave it a cooler name. But it's always in favor of the artist, depending on what your deal was and how much money you took. I know some artists in town that did bad ancillary deals too, though. They did like 50-50 or 70-30 ancillaries.

So they're in this 80-20 record deal where they're only getting 20% of their streaming royalties. Don't own any of the masters. 100% of the masters will... owned by the label for the rest of their career.

So they're in this 80-20 record deal where they're only getting 20% of their streaming royalties. Don't own any of the masters. 100% of the masters will... owned by the label for the rest of their career.

So they're in this 80-20 record deal where they're only getting 20% of their streaming royalties. Don't own any of the masters. 100% of the masters will... owned by the label for the rest of their career.

And then they go out and they'll do a 60-40 ancillary participation. And the problem with that- Meaning the concerts? Yeah. But the problem with that is, is that if I give the label even 80%, let's say, I mean 20%, let's say I said, you know what? We've done great. Y'all built my profile. I'll give you 20%. Booking agent wants 10. Management's still coming in at 15.

And then they go out and they'll do a 60-40 ancillary participation. And the problem with that- Meaning the concerts? Yeah. But the problem with that is, is that if I give the label even 80%, let's say, I mean 20%, let's say I said, you know what? We've done great. Y'all built my profile. I'll give you 20%. Booking agent wants 10. Management's still coming in at 15.

And then they go out and they'll do a 60-40 ancillary participation. And the problem with that- Meaning the concerts? Yeah. But the problem with that is, is that if I give the label even 80%, let's say, I mean 20%, let's say I said, you know what? We've done great. Y'all built my profile. I'll give you 20%. Booking agent wants 10. Management's still coming in at 15.

Business manager's still at five, which I've negotiated all those fees back over the years. But I mean, you know how this works. I mean, if you just- Next thing you know, what I try to advise artists is this. You're going to end up in a situation where you're going to make what your manager is making if you're not careful. You know what I mean? The difference is they've got 12 other clients.

Business manager's still at five, which I've negotiated all those fees back over the years. But I mean, you know how this works. I mean, if you just- Next thing you know, what I try to advise artists is this. You're going to end up in a situation where you're going to make what your manager is making if you're not careful. You know what I mean? The difference is they've got 12 other clients.

Business manager's still at five, which I've negotiated all those fees back over the years. But I mean, you know how this works. I mean, if you just- Next thing you know, what I try to advise artists is this. You're going to end up in a situation where you're going to make what your manager is making if you're not careful. You know what I mean? The difference is they've got 12 other clients.

It's normally in the ancillary. Same ratio? But yeah, just whatever that is. It's ticket sales? It's out of mind completely.