Jennifer Bray

it's good britney it was about um kind of like this character in the banking crush not good um and like he oh my god i can't even get into it but i sent it to a publisher and she an irish publisher and she was so kind and she wrote back and she said thank you so much for your submission i did read it with great interest uh no yeah but if you do all of these things um maybe one day

She was like, you have to have a clear pitch, you know, you have to avoid cliches.

I remember like, then I was like, have I got cliches?

And I read it back.

Yeah.

Cliche Central.

And like all of these different things.

But instead of kind of taking that advice at the time, I looked at it and said, yeah.

I'm obviously shite so I'll leave it there but then it's like this compulsion I kept coming back to it to write different books and I think I had to do all those books like the three books or whatever um and up until now to to get better yeah better at it you know yeah

You know, the fork in the road moments in life.

Yes.

I'm sure she looks back and goes, what?

I know.

The lessons were learned.

But yeah, no, it was it was crazy time.

Like in the beginning, we're all just fueled by this like sense of adrenaline.

You know, like got to get through this.

And we thought this last four weeks.

Look, we know what happened.

But in in real terms, what it meant for me was that.