Jennifer Forde

And then it became, for me and for us, it just became something else.

And it's not that I didn't trust him in terms of, I don't think he's lying.

And we do believe that he experienced this thing and that he then went on this crazy journey of being kind of pushed out of the CIA and

You know, to where he is at the end of the series, which is living in the mountains somewhere in America with weapons.

He carries cameras everywhere because he believes that, you know, the CIA, he became sort of persona non grata because he was a whistleblower, that kind of classic whistleblower story where initially he's trying to draw attention to this thing that happened to him.

But he goes on this crazy journey of ultimately believing that America are trying to kind of push, talk about this weapon underground because they themselves have one and they don't want anyone else to know about it.

So he's trying to raise awareness on it, but he sort of is increasingly on the outs now.

and feels increasingly vulnerable.

And so you just are on this ride wondering, you know, how big is this conspiracy going to go?

And how much am I willing to go there with him?

You know, at any point, you can kind of get off the train and think...

Yeah, this is too mad.

You've lost me.

But certainly there are people who are with him the whole way.

And I don't know if we necessarily are.

But like I say, it just became this thing where the way he talks, his accent shifts, you know, he's American.

All the footage, you know, he's American when he speaks English.

I think that there was a similarity, actually, except that one was more successful than the other, that Ian would kind of try and...

He always felt, I think, like he was pulling strings and maneuvering things.

He was always trying to play journalists off each other.