Jenny Blumenthal-Barby
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first heard Sep 2021
last heard Sep 2021
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And I was just finishing my PhD in philosophy, where I had been writing about and studying these very philosophical, rational, reason-based theories of autonomy.
And I just encountered them and I started hanging out with them and I started going.
To their lab meetings and um learning about all of the psychological realities about how patients really make decisions, and started to get really concerned about the challenges that it would that these findings were posing for some of our concepts, theories in bioethics, and the way we thought about the ethics of patient decision making.
Um, so for me it was really happenstance, just encountering people from a different discipline that challenged, you know, the the views that I was thinking about as part of the discipline that I came from.
So the way that I think about a nudge loosely is really just using any insight from behavioral economics or decision psychology about
how people make decisions in these more kind of subtle ways or quirky ways or you know the kinds of ways that are influenced by heuristics and biases and using that knowledge to kind of rechannel it.
and shape or influence a patient's decision making in a particular direction.
And as Scott said, I think people will put a couple of um important caveats on that idea, which is that nudges don't um they don't take away options.
They're not uh they don't coerce people, like punish people if they don't pick the right choice.
They're not mandates, they don't like force people to do things.
And as Scott said, typically they also are contrasted with incentives because incentives are more of a kind of associated with a more traditional economic.
uh model of how you might rationally give somebody money to do something because money is a valuable thing.
Um, so that's I mean, I I can say for those who are uh like philosophers, there's a philosopher, Yasher Sagai, who has a really good
Philosophical definition of nudges.
And the way that he characterizes all of these things is really he calls it triggering a person's shallow cognitive processes.
So I think that really gets into like what nudging is, is kind of tapping into these various shallow cognitive processes to influence a people, a person's decision in a particular way.
Scott, how do you think about nudges?
I think so.
And and Eric, I'm thinking of a another example of a nudge here in this um same context that Scott is talking about, which is that
Some researchers have um done research uh that has to do with trying to make
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