Jenny Friel

And, you know, I think some of the most striking scenes in that were the interviews between him and the social worker.

Yes.

And him kind of like eventually revealing himself to have done this horrendous crime.

Why?

We're still not sure.

But like much in the same as this case, that we're still not sure why these boys did it.

Yes.

And much the same way as adults, innocent until proven guilty.

So they had to treat them with kid gloves as well as, you know, and then you have the added, you know, stress, I suppose, on the case of these children being as young as they are.

And if they turn out to be innocent, like, you know, then you've traumatized them.

Children.

Children.

Exactly.

Because when they went to, when the boys were, you know, arrested and they were, you know, asked to come to the police station so they would be arrested.

And then the Gardaí went in and searched their homes afterwards.

But they found this murder kit in Boy B's bedroom.

He hadn't even like thrown it away or

There was no, there was just clearly no cognizance of, you know, that he could get caught or of what even evidence might be.

And that's one of the interesting things about your feature.

You spoke to Dr. Kevin Lamb, who has, you know, helped in cases like this, numerous cases like this, like investigated and interviewed defendants.