Jenny Holland

Frank, you have some of the news now that's been escaping over the last few days.

Some of it has been quite rebellious amongst the Cardinals.

Other news has been slightly more expected from the usual quarters, from terms of the modernists and the heretics.

Tell us about Cardinal Roach, whom we call in the UK Cockroach.

He was in charge of the liturgy.

His was one of the four papers that was distributed to all the cardinals.

Tell me, are we seeing... Jenny's going to be talking to us later about this revival that seems to be taking place amongst Generation Z. We've been hitting this every week on the show, especially amongst young people, young guys, and massive uptick towards the...

traditional latin mass is the institutional catholic church finally moving itself orientating itself to to to receive the fruits of the holy spirit and open the math mass the old master latin mass to this to the new waves of youth that are

crossing the threshold for the first time?

Or are they trying to stamp on the embers and stop it from taking light?

What was Cardinal Roche's intervention?

I think the canon, the Roman canon, the canon of the Mass, goes back to like the third or the fourth century, pretty much untouched until the two priests rewrote it in a Roman restaurant in Trastevere overnight.

I noticed that...

I noticed that Cardinal Cockroach quoted Pope Benedict XVI.

in his pamphlet.

He didn't quote... I searched for it, Frank Walker.

I didn't find the part where the Holy Cardinal quotes Ratzinger as calling the Novus Ordo Mass a banal, on-the-spot product.

That part was missing from Roach's summary.

Tell me about... Tell me...

Before we go to a quick break about Cardinal Zen's intervention when he calls synodality an ironclad manipulation and an insult to bishops.