Jenny Holland

I see this as the standard youthful

The standard youth generation rebellion against the parents and their values fundamentally.

Whereas, say, generation X, our generation, rebelled against our parents.

notionally Christian but zero fruits style of cultural, social affiliation to Christianity.

We saw that it was all basically a hoax, our generation, and we rejected that because basically who wants to have their lives ruled by something whose adherents clearly don't

believe it to be true um and yet our generation's children have seen the the godless

materialism that we've been following um perhaps more coherently than our parents but fundamentally it's it's valueless um and meaningless uh and the next generation doing that youthful rebellion is rebelling against that and you know and what they're doing is that they're finding christ which is superb um give me your take on that as a parent

Have I got that right?

I think you have.

I think that it's because young people, people in their late teens and young adulthood, have far more direct and early experience of the downside of the godless materialism that you mentioned.

I mean, obviously, you and I grew up in a very kind of prosperous, comfortable, physically comfortable world.

But these kids have seen the downside of it and how hollow excessive materialism is in a way it didn't because the options to them were so oppressive.

apparently endless, and they understood how empty that actually made them feel.

And they sought out a replacement that was more enduring and that wasn't made of digital material and, you know, attention economy.

It was made of something more robust and accessible directly from your heart and mind.

I mean...

Young people today have grown up in wealthy countries, have grown up with incredibly high standards of living physically and materially, but incredibly low standards of living intellectually, socially, and spiritually.

And I always think that there is this natural antenna that if sort of dusted off,

will find its way to God because that has been my experience.

So it doesn't really surprise me that young people are doing this.