Jenny Kleeman
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443 appearances
8 recordings
5 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard 15 Jul
Jenny Kleeman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And she said to me, I'm not familiar with that treatment.
And the idea of somebody who is specialising in this area not knowing about SMA, which is an incredibly common disease, and not knowing about Zolgensma, which made headlines around the world, is quite astonishing.
So she is either very poorly informed or she's not telling the truth when she says that.
It's in her interest to spin this idea that all existing treatments are really flawed and that the only real answer to stopping children from suffering is to edit the genes of embryos.
Has Cathy got a sense of how much her treatment is going to cost?
She has no idea how much it will cost.
I heard her on a podcast saying that it would cost about $20,000, which is the same price as IVF in the US.
I put this to her and she basically told me she just made that up on the spot in that podcast.
Nonetheless, I know that in America, people are prepared to spend a lot of money on reproductive technology.
One of the things that I have found, as somebody who's reported a lot on reproductive technology over the past few years, is the normalization of pre-implantation genetic testing for things like height, for things like not just gender, but things like intelligence.
In America, it's perfectly allowed for you to have your embryos screened and tested so that you implant the ones that are most likely to be healthy and tall or have a particular eye color.
That is legal, that is normal, but it's also very expensive.
It's seen as a sort of enhanced form of IVF.
It's increasingly an option for wealthy Americans.
Absolutely.
I mean, Cathy's big thing is that pre-implantation genetic testing involves throwing out the embryos that do carry the genes that you're seeking not to have in the next generation.
And some people don't produce enough embryos.
And for some people, every embryo will be affected.
Each one of those embryos is incredibly precious and this gives every embryo a chance.
It's an extremely emotive, very powerful and legitimate argument for this.
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