Jenny O'Dell
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102 appearances
1 recordings
1 series
first heard Jul 2019
last heard Jul 2019
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you kind of expect things or you kind of maybe don't perceive things outside of what you're expecting and I think you know the experience of traveling is for a lot of people opening yourself up to being surprised like you're willing to be surprised you're expecting to be surprised I think that's a very different mentality than you have in your everyday life
Like I'm sitting in the middle of a garden right now.
It's a perfect example also of like, there's a lot of work that goes into this garden.
It's designed in a way to let you spend time here.
And that's not arbitrary.
Like if this were just a random field, you know, there wouldn't be all these places to sit.
You have to strike this balance between sort of designing something and researching something, but also just
understanding that the actual life of it is going to come from the place, not from the design.
The design is just there to make that accessible to you.
So strike a balance between structure and nature.
Yeah.
And by nature, I just mean like kind of what is already there, like pre-existing processes and things and beings.
I equate them with feeling alive.
If you take routine to its logical extreme, you're just sort of an automaton, right?
Like you're going through the emotions, like you're...
doing the things that you're supposed to be doing for the reasons you're supposed to be doing them, maybe without a lot of room for questioning or thinking about something else you might rather be doing.
And so being surprised and getting perspective, I think are two different ways of kind of like shaking free of that framework and continuing to change as a person.
It's almost like people go to the Grand Canyon expecting to, like, consume a postcard or something.
That it's not an actual physical space with physical characteristics.
There was one TripAdvisor review of the Grand Canyon where he said it was like a three star review.
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