Jenny Taitz
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first heard Jan 2025
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And so DBT is an awesome treatment that is the gold standard in suicide prevention, but has now been found helpful well beyond that population to treat other difficult to treat problems like substance use issues.
So stress is this mismatch between your demands, what you're facing and your resources. And so it's one of those moments when you think it's too much, I can't. And so much of stress is really subjective. The thing that's interesting to think about with that is if you have stress and believe stress is bad for you, that actually increases your risk. of dying from stress-related causes.
And so I wouldn't get too down on your body's stress response. That's actually a huge part of what I want to share is if you normalize, like it makes sense that I have stress in my life. If you didn't have stress, your life would probably be pretty shitty and boring. Yeah.
Yeah, so if you combine seeing stress as like the price of a meaningful life and your body's stress response is serving you, butterflies is like oxygen helping you improve performance. At-risk youth that are on their way to college that are taught that stress is okay. Everyone feels stressed. Stress is something you can deal with.
Yeah, yeah. With the right supports, you're not alone. You have nothing to be ashamed of. And what your body's doing in those stressful moments is actually helpful, not shameful. One of my favorite papers on the topic is called Turning Your Knots Into Bows. Literally teaching people that the knots in their stomach are actually bows improves their performance on like the GRE.
That's amazing. Because that's totally different than what happens to most people is you have a stressful event. I mean, I think as people, we're masterful at something stressful happens and we multiply it. We think the worst, 10 times worse. And then that obviously does a number to your body.
And then the combination of your mind and body feeling like they're rebelling against you does not put you in a good position to deal with the demands in your life.
A hundred percent. And that's why I teach all sorts of ways to get kind of out of emotion mind and more into a reasonable mind or wise mind.
I don't want to minimize stress is very real. And a lot of us are feeling super stressed these days. But how do we stop ruminating, which is one of the trans diagnostic, like a cross diagnosis. This is one of the things we targeted my group and we deal with in DBT. But how do we target overthinking? Something happened for two minutes and you could be playing it 20 hours later. And this is insane.
But if you're asked in a lab where there's all sorts of physiological measures hooked up to you about the worst thing that ever happened to you. Your body literally re-experiences that even if the person that did it to you is dead. And I know you had Sapolsky on here. Like, how do we break free of overthinking? This is why zebras don't get ulcers.
I'm a world-class ruminator. I was too. And in Intro to Psych, I was like, this is me. This fed into why I got into the mindfulness-based therapies that I practice because I was like, this actually works for me. And I thought that this was just who I was. Yeah. By the end of this, I want you to be a world-class ex-ruminator.
No, no, we're doing it. We're doing it. Oh, Maddie. This is so exciting. Do you also ruin it? So much.
We're going to do it. I just want everyone to hear me out. Anything I say is not something that I randomly thought about this morning, like a gym class. It's based on many research papers. what you think would work.
In the kitchen one morning, rushing before work. And we have a small child. We have three small children, but one is the smallest. And he spills literally a gallon of milk on the floor. And Adam likes to make sure that things are properly cleaned. And so he starts aggressively trying to clean up the milk in such a way that he ends up cutting his hand. Oh, God.
On the cake plate of the bottom of the fridge. And then we didn't have any bandages in the house. So then he runs to the local CVS, busy with the baby at that time. And I also, I'm not quite sure this merits a CVS visit.
And the great thing about Adam is he came home from this and he was like laughing with my laughter. Okay, so he goes to CVS to get a bandage and some neosporin and gets into a fender bender. Yes.
not spilled milk and I just want to double down on life is really hard and I don't want to minimize and I've certainly been through hard things myself but the fact that we can go from spilled milk to cutting your hand to a fender bender and thank god it was just a fender bender is mind-blowing and at the same time I've had these things myself like I was stressed postpartum this was the second kid I'm like picking up my nail and thinking I have no time I have to pump I have to get to work I have a book deadline I'm out of time and then I give myself a treatment
Consistent infection.
Literally, it was like picking my nail. Your immune system is down apparently when you're nursing. And so my friends at doctor, they're like, you have sepsis. You need to like go to the ER. Oh my God. Like stop infection or something weird. And then I'm like, okay, so I'm sitting in Cedars ER for like six hours. And I'm like, I thought I had no time. And now I really have no time.
But we're specialists at doing this to ourselves. And to your earlier point, when we're stressed, the emotional parts of our brain is on fire. But people are also remarkably good. good at getting better with the right tools. If I had just slowed down and noticed, okay, there's the urge to pick up my nail, I could do something instead.
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