Jeremiah Johnston

And it's a nice idea that Jesus, he worked with bushes, not trees.

And the rest of the time he worked with rocks.

If you've been to the Holy Land or anywhere in that world, none of the ruins are wood.

All of them are stone.

Jesus was a stonemason.

So if we got that wrong, what else do we get wrong?

My first rabbinical teacher happened to be, it wasn't Jewish at all, but he was a brilliant biblical scholar, Ray Vanderlaan.

And he was from, he's a Dutch man from Holland, Holland, Michigan.

And he said, Kathy, we're wrong about everything.

And that's when my faith came alive again, Glenn.

I want to know the truth because that's what sets me free.

And now all these books later, I think this is my 37th book.

And it's not all on not all on face.

Some of them are funny books.

Some of them I co-wrote with Regis.

Some of them are kids books.

But they add up as a sort of a body of work through the years.

And I did most wrote a lot of them when I was in the backseat of my car going in and out.

to New York to do my TV shows.

You know, I never wanted to waste a minute, Glenn.