Jeremy McBride

But we love this. I'm sorry, love. But we're interested in this tension here. because we think we can control things. I mean, that's what, if you've seen the movie Nope, this great footage with this chimp Gordy, which he covers and is a through line in the show, it's inspired based on this whole idea of spectacle and humans that can control things.

But we love this. I'm sorry, love. But we're interested in this tension here. because we think we can control things. I mean, that's what, if you've seen the movie Nope, this great footage with this chimp Gordy, which he covers and is a through line in the show, it's inspired based on this whole idea of spectacle and humans that can control things.

Nope, in that scene with Gordy, the chimp, is probably one of the most beautiful displays cinematically that I've seen. It's horrible. It's very tragic.

Nope, in that scene with Gordy, the chimp, is probably one of the most beautiful displays cinematically that I've seen. It's horrible. It's very tragic.

Nope, in that scene with Gordy, the chimp, is probably one of the most beautiful displays cinematically that I've seen. It's horrible. It's very tragic.

She's careful. I mean, she's 77 years old, Pam Rosaire. When she was seven years old, she was asked what she wants to do with her life in this circus animal family. And she says, I want to train chimps. I want to do something hard. I want to do something difficult. The rest of her family trained horses and elephants. And that was culturally what they were part of.

She's careful. I mean, she's 77 years old, Pam Rosaire. When she was seven years old, she was asked what she wants to do with her life in this circus animal family. And she says, I want to train chimps. I want to do something hard. I want to do something difficult. The rest of her family trained horses and elephants. And that was culturally what they were part of.

She's careful. I mean, she's 77 years old, Pam Rosaire. When she was seven years old, she was asked what she wants to do with her life in this circus animal family. And she says, I want to train chimps. I want to do something hard. I want to do something difficult. The rest of her family trained horses and elephants. And that was culturally what they were part of.

How is it that Pam hasn't— Okay, you're thinking about more different measures, but like— I'm thinking about attacks.

How is it that Pam hasn't— Okay, you're thinking about more different measures, but like— I'm thinking about attacks.

How is it that Pam hasn't— Okay, you're thinking about more different measures, but like— I'm thinking about attacks.

I think she's got some, you know, look, I think she's lucky. I think it's the best way. I don't know what happens behind the scenes, to be honest. I think, you know, to be fair, I think, I don't know. But I do know that when I watched her interaction, You know, there's a real, like, understanding. And it's, and she has a leash on them.

I think she's got some, you know, look, I think she's lucky. I think it's the best way. I don't know what happens behind the scenes, to be honest. I think, you know, to be fair, I think, I don't know. But I do know that when I watched her interaction, You know, there's a real, like, understanding. And it's, and she has a leash on them.

I think she's got some, you know, look, I think she's lucky. I think it's the best way. I don't know what happens behind the scenes, to be honest. I think, you know, to be fair, I think, I don't know. But I do know that when I watched her interaction, You know, there's a real, like, understanding. And it's, and she has a leash on them.

I'm sure they're less aggressive.

I'm sure they're less aggressive.

I'm sure they're less aggressive.

you know, I'm sort of saying, well, what we, what we look, what, so yeah, yes, it is. We didn't realize also how dark this was coming out of it. Cause we were so close to it and the reaction by people, it's very heavy. Um, so I'm, we're all desensitized from, from seeing this. Um, there's some really interesting stuff that happens in for joy. I hope you finish it, uh, including another attack.

you know, I'm sort of saying, well, what we, what we look, what, so yeah, yes, it is. We didn't realize also how dark this was coming out of it. Cause we were so close to it and the reaction by people, it's very heavy. Um, so I'm, we're all desensitized from, from seeing this. Um, there's some really interesting stuff that happens in for joy. I hope you finish it, uh, including another attack.

you know, I'm sort of saying, well, what we, what we look, what, so yeah, yes, it is. We didn't realize also how dark this was coming out of it. Cause we were so close to it and the reaction by people, it's very heavy. Um, so I'm, we're all desensitized from, from seeing this. Um, there's some really interesting stuff that happens in for joy. I hope you finish it, uh, including another attack.