Jess Ekstrom

But I was like, Oh, watching myself like from afar.

And I know this sounds like really woo woo and Hakuna Matata right now, but I was like, it just gave me the chance to ask myself, like, do I like the dots I'm putting on the canvas?

And yeah,

an overwhelming amount was like, no, because I realized that the amount of time that I am not present with my family or the people and I'm on my phone or I'm thinking about work or something, like I could almost see myself like doing bath time with my kids, sitting there scrolling something.

And I just wanted to like say like,

are you doing?

Like, this is like, be right here.

And so that was when I really made, I mean, and it's been a work in progress, but like a big change on the boundaries that I have with my phone, because I took a second to like, step outside of myself and ask, like, do I like where all of these daily decision and these dots are heading?

And this like one department of, you

presence with my family with my kids with the people in my life I was like I feel like I could be better at that but it literally took me like visualizing myself in my routine in order to do that which is kind of crazy I hope it doesn't have to be that extreme for anyone listening but that was what did it for me

Right, yeah.

Do you ever experience the, like when you get home from a trip, like the speaking, like that post-achievement letdown that I'm talking about?

Yeah.

And it's like, it's funny because you go from this like,

adoring I'm on a stage in front of people that are you know asking me to sign something or like and then all of a sudden to just being back to reality which part of it is like I love like coming home and and everything and then there's another part of me that is asks myself like how much

my energy and just like daily tally of what I have in the bank goes to like impressing strangers versus you know at home and I get that again that's like a privilege to think about it that way but I do think a lot about like am I giving it all to a room full of people and then coming back on e to the people that matter most and I think one of the ways that I've been able to

help with that like that phone thing in the kind of walking through your day really helped me see this was I don't necessarily have to go up there in front of people and have this super energetic talk show personality after having kids it actually helped me

put some of those moments, those speaking moments into perspective.

Because for me, before having kids, it was like, this is the most important thing I'll ever do.

And I agree that it's really important.