Jesse Eisinger

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287 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2024 last heard 29 May

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And so it's a principle about the project of creating a society and having a governing body over that and having the governing body actually work for people.
Basically, yeah.
No, no, no.
But I think he's saying, you know, we can't make all these promises and then not only not deliver on them, but not show people.
We need to show people what we do for a living, you know, where the money's going, how it's working.
I think it's a purposeful strategy.
I think it's well thought out.
And Democrats have been kind of conceding
this idea that government was ineffective, inefficient, and sort of the wrong idea since Clinton, really.
Clinton sort of said the era of big government is over.
I think they've been running away from government.
And, you know, one idea would be to embrace the idea of government and try to make it work for people.
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The law seemed patently unfair.
Sure. Jesse Isinger, and I'm a senior editor and reporter at ProPublica.
Yeah, I'm in like the 99.5 percentile of people who think about rich people and taxes. Yes. Yeah. How did that happen to you? You know, just growing up angry. I wake up angry in the morning every day. I've always gravitated... It was all... It was a complete accident that I got into both journalism and then especially business and financial journalism. And then by happenstance, I gravitated to...
con men and liars and charlatans. I went from, you know, incredibly complicated stuff like accounting fraud and day sales outstanding and accounts receivable to structured finance and collateralized debt obligations and all that stuff. But I was always very daunted about taxes because I thought that was actually the really complicated stuff that I could never understand. And?
And then it fell into my lap through serendipity.
I consider it the most boring investigative series ever written. And what made it so boring? It's about a bureaucracy that's not doing anything. And it's about the tax bureaucracy that's not doing anything. So you're layering taxes on nothing.
Exactly. Exactly. But I was very proud of it. We really got into the IRS and it was very important. We penetrated a wealthy person's tax audit to explain why it was so difficult to audit the wealthy.
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