Jesse Michels

Yeah.

Well, hello.

That's a good stat.

And for me, this is not I moved from California to Texas.

So I'm not this is not a polemic on, you know, I'm not anti anti gun necessarily.

But I do find it interesting that a guy in Jolly West who's clearly programmed a lot of violence at high levels in the U.S.,

is best friends with the guy who's the head of the NRA and this gun champion.

That seems interesting to me.

Is there something there?

You keep asking me questions as if I might know the answer.

I don't know.

You know, we're speculating.

We're in kind of really murky territory.

It's out of control.

And this is what I'm getting at.

And this is a really weird, deep conspiratorial thread of which we've, you know, developed a few here.

But it seems like the things Jolly West are involved with, and this cuts to Tom O'Neill's thesis with chaos, right?

is the construction of somebody like a Manson because he looked and talked and walked like a hippie when counterculture was at its greatest threat to, again, people like J. Edgar Hoover who were running the FBI at the time, the State Department.

What's that?

What do you mean?