Jessie Stephens

Exactly.

Exactly right.

Isn't it funny, though, because I kind of agree with Holly that in the shower –

I want a bar of soap.

That is because I have a sense that it's the most efficient way to get clean.

I don't want to smack.

But then I was reading that if you have even like your fancy soap with your pump, apparently pump way dirtier than your self-cleaning soap because you've got your germs on that.

Don't tell all the people with their Aesop soaps that they're proud of.

Or at least the Aesop bottle with some Kmart soap inside.

But even like environmentally, the idea that we've all gone to these kind of plastic tubs.

Petrochemical slush.

Yes.

We just accept an hour in the shower.

This article that we read about it, which for some reason was 10,000 words.

I was like, this is the longest article about bar soap.

It was a full dissertation on bar soap.

It went into the history of bar soap and I was like, look, I just have a feeling about it.

But we're saying even at hotels they don't have it anymore.

It's true.

A lot of places just have it on the wall.