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Jessie Stephens

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Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

Well, I find this thing about so it used to be the drama had to happen about 15 minutes in, right?

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

Or we know that in novels the rule is they call it sort of the end of the beginning, the end of the first third.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

They go make the drama happen has been the conventional thinking.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

But our attention spans are so short and there are so many other books you can pick up, so many TV shows you could watch.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

There's a TikTok that will give you some entertainment in 12 seconds that now a lot of the advice is and a lot of the notes that people get

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

is it needs to be immediate.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

That first scene needs to get you.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

So you think about like.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

Yeah, what that costs you.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

So the example, I remember doing a course about it and The Exorcist, great, great movie.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

There's a device called various similitude, which is where you establish who the characters are and the ordinariness of their lives.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

And it makes everyone feel like that could be me.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

That could be, oh, yes, we're just going to school.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

We're just hanging out with mum, having some dinner.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

And then boom, you put the drama in and suddenly she's possessed by the devil and you're way more invested.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

But how many times do we all sit down now and go, I'm going to give this five minutes and if I'm not in, then I'm going to go and watch something else on my list.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

And interestingly, when they say second screen โ€“

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

The second screen isn't your phone.

Mamamia Out Loud
"Hold On, I Just Need To Vent"

Your phone is the first screen.