Jia Tolentino

And so much of it bends itself around money, but because this is the show that it is, it all is focused around human relationships and specifically a lot of it around love and sex. That's where you see the way people hide from themselves and reveal themselves and what they say they want and what they really want and how they lie and whether they lie, etc., etc.,

And so much of it bends itself around money, but because this is the show that it is, it all is focused around human relationships and specifically a lot of it around love and sex. That's where you see the way people hide from themselves and reveal themselves and what they say they want and what they really want and how they lie and whether they lie, etc., etc.,

And so we thought, why not talk to Dan Savage, the author of Savage Love and the host of the Savage Love cast. He is someone whose work I have been consuming since, I don't know, 20 years ago when I was 16 and kind of learning about what sex could be other than what had been taught to me in high school. I feel like I spent so much of college reading Savage Love columns.

And so we thought, why not talk to Dan Savage, the author of Savage Love and the host of the Savage Love cast. He is someone whose work I have been consuming since, I don't know, 20 years ago when I was 16 and kind of learning about what sex could be other than what had been taught to me in high school. I feel like I spent so much of college reading Savage Love columns.

And I, you know, one could argue that to whatever extent we have developed a kind of healthy, open sexual culture in adulthood, we owe a lot to dance work over the last few decades. So I was really excited to talk to him. You might have already heard him on the Look Back portion of this podcast, Breaking Down Ethan and Daphne's Relationship.

And I, you know, one could argue that to whatever extent we have developed a kind of healthy, open sexual culture in adulthood, we owe a lot to dance work over the last few decades. So I was really excited to talk to him. You might have already heard him on the Look Back portion of this podcast, Breaking Down Ethan and Daphne's Relationship.

And so we're excited to have him back to talk episode seven. I'm so excited to talk to Dan Savage, who I've been a fan of for a really long time. Dan is, of course, the host of the Savage Lovecast, author of Savage Love. Welcome.

And so we're excited to have him back to talk episode seven. I'm so excited to talk to Dan Savage, who I've been a fan of for a really long time. Dan is, of course, the host of the Savage Lovecast, author of Savage Love. Welcome.

Let's talk about all the fucked up psychosexual dynamics going on in season three of The White Lotus. You talked on the Look Back podcast about how, you know, season two, it was the bedroom farce. It was, you know, this was much more about sex and romance in season one. Where do you place season three on the spectrum?

Let's talk about all the fucked up psychosexual dynamics going on in season three of The White Lotus. You talked on the Look Back podcast about how, you know, season two, it was the bedroom farce. It was, you know, this was much more about sex and romance in season one. Where do you place season three on the spectrum?

Yeah, talking about fully grown genitals, etc.

Yeah, talking about fully grown genitals, etc.

Well, and it's like, I mean, who is here looking for love? It's kind of Belinda, kind of, or who has kind of found a real-ish version of it. It's kind of Belinda. Guy Talk's looking for love. Mook is looking for a sufficiently aggressive man that can then arouse her sort of romantic loyalty or something.

Well, and it's like, I mean, who is here looking for love? It's kind of Belinda, kind of, or who has kind of found a real-ish version of it. It's kind of Belinda. Guy Talk's looking for love. Mook is looking for a sufficiently aggressive man that can then arouse her sort of romantic loyalty or something.

Right. And it's as if she knows that she can't tame the bodyguards into being sort of emotionally available and forthright. But perhaps she could get Guy talked to. I mean, she has a point in that, like, he does need to get better at his job. He's actually quite a bad security guard.

Right. And it's as if she knows that she can't tame the bodyguards into being sort of emotionally available and forthright. But perhaps she could get Guy talked to. I mean, she has a point in that, like, he does need to get better at his job. He's actually quite a bad security guard.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are you gift wrapping it for suicidal patrons?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are you gift wrapping it for suicidal patrons?

Yes. Sweating bullets the entire time.

Yes. Sweating bullets the entire time.