Jia Tolentino

It occurred to me that Saxon's like perpetual externalization of his mantras and his philosophy is a result of the opposite on the inside. That in fact like he takes one drug. He takes one pill. He loses like the slightest amount of control. And he actually underneath he's pliable and he's malleable and he's the one waiting for someone to use him kind of, right?

It occurred to me that Saxon's like perpetual externalization of his mantras and his philosophy is a result of the opposite on the inside. That in fact like he takes one drug. He takes one pill. He loses like the slightest amount of control. And he actually underneath he's pliable and he's malleable and he's the one waiting for someone to use him kind of, right?

And he – As his father has used him. Right. He has this helplessness, like the way he even looks at Chelsea, like the way he's kind of trailing behind the girls being like, someone help me, someone give me direction, someone tell me what to do. Whereas Lachlan in his outward life, you know, he's following people around looking for a philosophy or looking for a love that will draw him in.

And he – As his father has used him. Right. He has this helplessness, like the way he even looks at Chelsea, like the way he's kind of trailing behind the girls being like, someone help me, someone give me direction, someone tell me what to do. Whereas Lachlan in his outward life, you know, he's following people around looking for a philosophy or looking for a love that will draw him in.

He loses one layer of inhibition and he's like, you know what? I'm going to have a threesome with my brother. I'm going to jerk him off. Whatever, man. So, you know, like Lachlan actually has something inside him that Saxon does not. He actually has more of the instinct that Saxon has been trying to like inculcate in him.

He loses one layer of inhibition and he's like, you know what? I'm going to have a threesome with my brother. I'm going to jerk him off. Whatever, man. So, you know, like Lachlan actually has something inside him that Saxon does not. He actually has more of the instinct that Saxon has been trying to like inculcate in him.

Right. Cloaked in a Lachlan outside.

Right. Cloaked in a Lachlan outside.

Right. Right. Exactly. Well, and what you were saying about, you know, either he wanted to or he is kind of doing this sort of straight male threesome performance.

Right. Right. Exactly. Well, and what you were saying about, you know, either he wanted to or he is kind of doing this sort of straight male threesome performance.

Totally. It's a gag. Yeah.

Totally. It's a gag. Yeah.

Yeah. Saxon is afraid of it.

Yeah. Saxon is afraid of it.

So let's talk about the three ladies and Valentin. I was thinking about there's that part in season two where Ethan tells Cameron, like— It's a kind of similar thing to what's going on with Lori and Jacqueline. That, like, Ethan's like, whenever I wanted to hook up with someone when we were younger, Cameron would just, like, swoop in and hook up with him first.

So let's talk about the three ladies and Valentin. I was thinking about there's that part in season two where Ethan tells Cameron, like— It's a kind of similar thing to what's going on with Lori and Jacqueline. That, like, Ethan's like, whenever I wanted to hook up with someone when we were younger, Cameron would just, like, swoop in and hook up with him first.

And he talks about mimetic desire, et cetera. And you kind of get a sense with the Jacqueline-Lori-Valentin thing. You know, you feel like Jacqueline's like, Lori, like, you're single, you're single, you should hook up with him. Yeah. It's kind of because she wants to. She's just being a little condescending towards single Lori. But then she fucks him, of course.

And he talks about mimetic desire, et cetera. And you kind of get a sense with the Jacqueline-Lori-Valentin thing. You know, you feel like Jacqueline's like, Lori, like, you're single, you're single, you should hook up with him. Yeah. It's kind of because she wants to. She's just being a little condescending towards single Lori. But then she fucks him, of course.

And Lori is like, well, you always do this.

And Lori is like, well, you always do this.