Jia Tolentino

And, you know, there were the women, the women are self-conscious of their age and they're, you know, through the whole like competitive thing. Something that hits harder in the way they fight at the beginning of the episode is they are set in their lives now. They're not old, but they are too old to choose a radically different value set and have it reset their life. They're entrenched.

And, you know, there were the women, the women are self-conscious of their age and they're, you know, through the whole like competitive thing. Something that hits harder in the way they fight at the beginning of the episode is they are set in their lives now. They're not old, but they are too old to choose a radically different value set and have it reset their life. They're entrenched.

They have...

They have...

children they have careers they've made their choices they have divorces they have marriages like they can't like there's this kind of fear of finality in them they're fearing that the narratives that have been in play for the last 30 years are going to be the narratives for the rest of their lives they're seeing that it probably is true and realizing that about each other but refusing to recognize it about themselves

children they have careers they've made their choices they have divorces they have marriages like they can't like there's this kind of fear of finality in them they're fearing that the narratives that have been in play for the last 30 years are going to be the narratives for the rest of their lives they're seeing that it probably is true and realizing that about each other but refusing to recognize it about themselves

And I think there's also something with every character where it's sort of like... Are you going to go into the rest of your life kind of honest or are you not? You know, like there is this kind of hope embedded within each of them that they can just that they can work it out. They can work out something.

And I think there's also something with every character where it's sort of like... Are you going to go into the rest of your life kind of honest or are you not? You know, like there is this kind of hope embedded within each of them that they can just that they can work it out. They can work out something.

And like they all kind of want to leave here and be like, I'm going to straightforwardly live the rest of my life kind of honestly. in clarity and peace, and they're all fighting up against whatever barrier it is to actually doing that.

And like they all kind of want to leave here and be like, I'm going to straightforwardly live the rest of my life kind of honestly. in clarity and peace, and they're all fighting up against whatever barrier it is to actually doing that.

Can you go into the rest of your life not... hiding something.

Can you go into the rest of your life not... hiding something.

Yeah, and they're all wondering that.

Yeah, and they're all wondering that.

And we'll see. And now we'll be talking to Gary slash Greg, John Grice.

And we'll see. And now we'll be talking to Gary slash Greg, John Grice.

I mean, I just really have to immediately ask. We need to just clear the air slash cloud the air and know, did Greg slash Gary kill Tanya? Did he orchestrate the killing of Tanya? Are we going to be working from that premise or not as we speak?

I mean, I just really have to immediately ask. We need to just clear the air slash cloud the air and know, did Greg slash Gary kill Tanya? Did he orchestrate the killing of Tanya? Are we going to be working from that premise or not as we speak?

And has he done this throughout his life and just like made fortune, spent them, made them, spent them?

And has he done this throughout his life and just like made fortune, spent them, made them, spent them?