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Jia Tolentino

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The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Like a party or something?

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Like a party or something?

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

It's very unhappy.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

It's very unhappy.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Right.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Right.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

He slept over with Jacqueline. I thought this was played really well and funnily. So Kate tells Laurie, you know what happened last night? Like, you know, I think I had a sleepover, you know, and breaks the snooze. Obviously, Kate at some level knows that this will be devastating to Laurie, right? She has been talking shit with Jacqueline about how...

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

He slept over with Jacqueline. I thought this was played really well and funnily. So Kate tells Laurie, you know what happened last night? Like, you know, I think I had a sleepover, you know, and breaks the snooze. Obviously, Kate at some level knows that this will be devastating to Laurie, right? She has been talking shit with Jacqueline about how...

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

You know, how hard the divorce has been for Laurie and how unbelievably single she is. And they treat her as if she is someone that is, you know, the third wheel, the friend that's not chosen first. And she knows how much it would mean. And kind of the charity case. The charity case. And they've both been sort of talking up this Laurie possibility, although Jacqueline more so than Kate.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

You know, how hard the divorce has been for Laurie and how unbelievably single she is. And they treat her as if she is someone that is, you know, the third wheel, the friend that's not chosen first. And she knows how much it would mean. And kind of the charity case. The charity case. And they've both been sort of talking up this Laurie possibility, although Jacqueline more so than Kate.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Like, she knows when she says, actually, Jacqueline... Fucked Valentin. Like, she knows it's not going to be received neutrally. But when Laurie also tries ostensibly to play it cool, Kate's like, I thought you would think this was funny. Like, you're getting mad. Why are you getting mad?

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Like, she knows when she says, actually, Jacqueline... Fucked Valentin. Like, she knows it's not going to be received neutrally. But when Laurie also tries ostensibly to play it cool, Kate's like, I thought you would think this was funny. Like, you're getting mad. Why are you getting mad?

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Well, I think that Kate is having it both ways where she truly believes that she's just engaging in little girl talk. But deep down underneath, she knows that she has an upper hand because she has this information that one person desperately wants but doesn't know and the other person desperately doesn't want her to share.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

Well, I think that Kate is having it both ways where she truly believes that she's just engaging in little girl talk. But deep down underneath, she knows that she has an upper hand because she has this information that one person desperately wants but doesn't know and the other person desperately doesn't want her to share.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

But she doesn't want to believe herself to be a person that would do this kind of thing. Like she's just like, I thought we were having fun. And I also thought that the way that Carrie Coon plays –

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

But she doesn't want to believe herself to be a person that would do this kind of thing. Like she's just like, I thought we were having fun. And I also thought that the way that Carrie Coon plays –

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

her own response which is like oh i just think it's interesting i just think it's really interesting jacklyn you know like she um like she now has the opportunity which is i think the character is experiencing as unpleasant because it is coming out of a place of being like profoundly slighted and put back on the bottom but the way she handles that information gives her the ability to kind of be on the top here like she gets to speak to jacklyn as if she is superior to her

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

her own response which is like oh i just think it's interesting i just think it's really interesting jacklyn you know like she um like she now has the opportunity which is i think the character is experiencing as unpleasant because it is coming out of a place of being like profoundly slighted and put back on the bottom but the way she handles that information gives her the ability to kind of be on the top here like she gets to speak to jacklyn as if she is superior to her

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

And I was thinking, you know, when they were having this discussion at breakfast, it was like, okay, now we're going to see which is worse in their eyes, being a Trump voter or a cheater. Right, right. Or even not really just a cheater. It's like a cheater who fucks over your best friend.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep. 6: “Denials” with Patrick Schwarzenegger and Leslie Bibb

And I was thinking, you know, when they were having this discussion at breakfast, it was like, okay, now we're going to see which is worse in their eyes, being a Trump voter or a cheater. Right, right. Or even not really just a cheater. It's like a cheater who fucks over your best friend.