Jia Tolentino

If Jacqueline had just hooked up with a rando at the club, this would not be... It would not be the same as... Not even close.

If Jacqueline had just hooked up with a rando at the club, this would not be... It would not be the same as... Not even close.

Well, at what point in the night you think she got his number, his personal cell?

Well, at what point in the night you think she got his number, his personal cell?

You never saw her texting him before.

You never saw her texting him before.

Oh, yes. Yeah.

Oh, yes. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that Jacqueline, I read her as the type of person that does a lot of this hierarchical assertion of dominance just purely on instinct. You know, I don't think she I don't think she knew she was going to do it until she was doing it. And then she was doing it. Laurie says at some point, it's like nobody ever changes.

Yeah, I think that Jacqueline, I read her as the type of person that does a lot of this hierarchical assertion of dominance just purely on instinct. You know, I don't think she I don't think she knew she was going to do it until she was doing it. And then she was doing it. Laurie says at some point, it's like nobody ever changes.

And the thing is, you know, a walk of shame is a walk of shame. You know, the concept itself feels very sort of Bush-era American pie. You know, it's like we're past that as a culture. And yet, if it's your own brother... I can't remember last night at all.

And the thing is, you know, a walk of shame is a walk of shame. You know, the concept itself feels very sort of Bush-era American pie. You know, it's like we're past that as a culture. And yet, if it's your own brother... I can't remember last night at all.

I don't remember that. You know, we're laughing at it because it's extremely funny, but it is it is a really sort of dark like Saxon is acting as if he were assaulted. You know what I mean? Like they're in this strange position where like Saxon is having the morning after trauma, like genuinely, you know, like he did not offer consent.

I don't remember that. You know, we're laughing at it because it's extremely funny, but it is it is a really sort of dark like Saxon is acting as if he were assaulted. You know what I mean? Like they're in this strange position where like Saxon is having the morning after trauma, like genuinely, you know, like he did not offer consent.

Yeah, like of someone that did not consent to something and the look that he gives Lachlan, the posture that he has, the way he holds himself when Lachlan is around and the ease that Lachlan has in his body. You know, maybe I'm projecting here, but it feels very recognizable. When he thinks about this, he gets nauseated.

Yeah, like of someone that did not consent to something and the look that he gives Lachlan, the posture that he has, the way he holds himself when Lachlan is around and the ease that Lachlan has in his body. You know, maybe I'm projecting here, but it feels very recognizable. When he thinks about this, he gets nauseated.

You know, like he's giving like there has been a power reversal this entire time. He's had the upper hand. He's been telling Lachlan what to do. And didn't you think there was a palpable shift? Like Lachlan comes up, he's more or less at ease. He's giving hungover, but he's more or less at ease and he's like, I blacked out. And I'm not saying that I think Lachlan did.

You know, like he's giving like there has been a power reversal this entire time. He's had the upper hand. He's been telling Lachlan what to do. And didn't you think there was a palpable shift? Like Lachlan comes up, he's more or less at ease. He's giving hungover, but he's more or less at ease and he's like, I blacked out. And I'm not saying that I think Lachlan did.

I mean, like, I don't think that Lachlan assaulted Saxon. I don't think that he took advantage. But there is, you know, I don't think what he did was something I would ever want to participate in personally. But I don't think he was deliberately exploiting his brother sexually, whatever. Right. But they have that dynamic. Like Lachlan is at ease.

I mean, like, I don't think that Lachlan assaulted Saxon. I don't think that he took advantage. But there is, you know, I don't think what he did was something I would ever want to participate in personally. But I don't think he was deliberately exploiting his brother sexually, whatever. Right. But they have that dynamic. Like Lachlan is at ease.