Jim O'Callaghan

Like, you know, I'd say Lamas for years was waiting with De Valera ever move on, you know.

You know, he was there a very, very long time.

No, it isn't, because in fairness to me, Martin, he's nowhere near the length of time that Eamon de Valera served as a leader.

But there's always been tension in Fianna Fáil, particularly in respect to the issue of leadership.

But, you know, tension sometimes is beneficial in politics.

Keeps you awake, keeps you alive, keeps you on your toes.

And, you know, it gets people excited about it.

And I think Fianna Fáil is an exciting party.

It's a party that young people should consider.

And it is something that I think that we have a great record in the past, and I believe we'll have an even better record in the future.

Thank you.

the Justice Minister and Fianna Fáil TD Jim O'Callaghan has called for a cut in the 52% marginal rate of tax calling the rate imprudent demoralising and contrary to the common good.

Well I'm joined in the studio by Barra Rowntree Assistant Professor of Economics at Trinity College and Barry Ward Fine Gael TD for Dun Laoghaire and you're both very welcome thank you for being with us.

Barra how do you feel about the marginal rate cut proposed?

So on over 44,000?

Well, luckily, we have Barry Ward here to answer all of those questions.

Where are you going to find the money?

So are you saying to me today now that you want to cut the lower rate as well?

And do you accept that that needs to be paid for?

So that means that you don't accept Barra's figure that if you reduce this down to 49%, let's say that's the example that Barra used, that that's going to cost you 1.5 billion.