Jo Setchell

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230 appearances 3 recordings 3 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 29 Jun

Jo Setchell’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Infinite Monkey Cage · Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell · 17 Dec 2025 podcast

And in the coffee break, yes, they'll be talking about how their monkeys love each other because it's so obvious that they do.

Last time I visited a facility, one of my friends works with captive American monkeys, these little calotricids, and showed me around.

And I met all these pairs, male and female, male and female, male and female.

And then finally we got to this cage and she said, oh, yeah, this is the two boys.

They clearly chose each other and they're hanging out.

And they have these brilliant enclosures where they all live in jeans.

They love to live in jeans.

There's jeans hanging up in the enclosures.

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Out of the two legs of these jeans popped out these two little male monkeys, and they've lived together.

They just chose to live together.

They haven't got babies, but she reckons that they would adopt if they were given the opportunity.

I think it's closing the gap, but I don't think you'll ever get to that final point where you know what's going on.

I just think we're still, we might be happy with an explanation until we develop some new method and we could go further into trying to explain what's happening in the brain or what's happening in the endocrine system or anything else that you might be interested in.

And you suddenly realize that you had an approximation of an answer, but there's still more to do and further to go.

Even when I say we might be closing the gap, I think the gap is just there.

And it is that fact that we have to eventually say, well, the patterns are the same.

So we are assuming that the experience is the same.

But we'll never know if the experience is the same.

Yeah, definitely.

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